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  • #16
    Preston-CLB
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2018
    • 3482

    Originally posted by broadside

    Does not matter, SB2 still disallows CCW at airports. I believe only staying in your vehicle will be okay. if you get out, you are at the airport and in violation of SB2
    Text in bold is the ticket to keep you out of the pokey.
    -P
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    • #17
      broadside
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2016
      • 1506

      So ignoring SB2, there is nothing in the regs for SFO or the city/county of SF that prohibits CCW outside the sterile areas. The firearms rules as they apply to SF owned properties is limited to properties within the boundaries of SF (that took me hours to find a few years ago). SFO is not within the limit of SF. I have carried in both the domestic and international ticketing/waiting areas of the airport prior to SB2.

      But SB2 killed that ability.

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      • #18
        BAJ475
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2014
        • 5051

        Originally posted by broadside
        So ignoring SB2, there is nothing in the regs for SFO or the city/county of SF that prohibits CCW outside the sterile areas. The firearms rules as they apply to SF owned properties is limited to properties within the boundaries of SF (that took me hours to find a few years ago). SFO is not within the limit of SF. I have carried in both the domestic and international ticketing/waiting areas of the airport prior to SB2.

        But SB2 killed that ability.
        When I lived in CA, I carried inside the SFO terminal every time I took my daughter and grandchildren to SFO for their flight back to Germany. One time, there was a group of 4 airport police officers that I approached to ask for directions to the men's room. As I was in the men's room, I wondered if they would have acted differently if they knew that I had a CCW and was carrying.

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        • #19
          CenterX
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 1720

          So- When did SB2 restricted areas go into effect?
          Did the 9th revisit the January stay?
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          • #20
            Preston-CLB
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2018
            • 3482

            SFO airport is located in South San Fransisco. Check their regs.

            The airport restriction was listed on my permit issued by Tuolumne County in 2022; a full year before SB2 was signed by Gruesome.

            The bottom line is violation of any of the restrictions listed on your permit will cause revocation of your permit and possible criminal charges in the jurisdiction where the violation occurred.

            Why risk those repercussions by attempting to find some kind of loophole?

            Don't get me wrong here. I am just as angry about the draconian and unconstitutional CA gun laws as any other law-abiding gun owner. We should not have to have the State's permission to exercise a constitutional right, but until we can win in the courts and overturn this crap, we are stuck with it, or we can leave.
            -P

            ETA: @CenterX: Here's a lengthy thread about SB2 court case.
            -p
            Last edited by Preston-CLB; 06-09-2024, 9:25 AM.
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            • #21
              P5Ret
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2010
              • 6348

              Originally posted by Preston-CLB
              SFO airport is located in South San Fransisco. Check their regs.
              No, it's not. It is on unincorporated land bordered by the cities of San Bruno, Millbrae, and very little of South City at the northern end of UAL's maintenance building. It is patrolled jointly by SFPD's airport bureau, and the San Mateo county Sheriff's office.

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              • #22
                Preston-CLB
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2018
                • 3482

                I stand corrected! Thank you for the clarification.
                -P
                ? "If you want nice fresh oats, you have to pay a fair price. If you are satisfied with oats that have already been through the horse, well, that comes a little cheaper."

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                • #23
                  vipertom1970
                  Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 199

                  FYI or maybe you already knew this but no hollow point bullets are allowed in SFO

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                  • #24
                    BAJ475
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 5051

                    Originally posted by vipertom1970
                    FYI or maybe you already knew this but no hollow point bullets are allowed in SFO
                    Where is the ordnance that says that?

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                    • #25
                      9Cal_OC
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 6656

                      Originally posted by vipertom1970
                      FYI or maybe you already knew this but no hollow point bullets are allowed in SFO
                      FUD
                      Freedom isn't free...

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                      • #26
                        P5Ret
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 6348

                        Originally posted by vipertom1970
                        FYI or maybe you already knew this but no hollow point bullets are allowed in SFO
                        Good luck enforcing a SF city ordinance in another county.

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                        • #27
                          BillSmith
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 518

                          So much FUD. I'll restrict my response to a narrow scope.

                          Inside the buildings, San Francisco PD. The City owns the land.
                          Outside the buildings, San Mateo County Sheriff. As note by others, this land is within San Mateo County.

                          The airport is a jurisdiction nightmare. City police from a non-adjacent community, representing the property owned by San Francisco. County agency, FAA, customs, private security, international forces, even the CHP has the right to govern, etc. Don't ask me how I know.
                          Sometimes a gun is just a gun.

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                          • #28
                            Librarian
                            Admin and Poltergeist
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 44627

                            Originally posted by vipertom1970
                            FYI or maybe you already knew this but no hollow point bullets are allowed in SFO
                            Just to tie a bow on this, SF restricts ammunition at section 618 in the city codes

                            SEC. 618. PROHIBITED AMMUNITION.



                            (a) Definition. For purposes of this Section, "Prohibited Ammunition" shall mean:



                            (1) Ammunition sold under the brand name "Winchester Black Talon," or that has physical properties resulting in ballistics performance identical to ammunition presently or formerly sold under the brand name Winchester Black Talon; or,



                            (2) Ammunition designated by its manufacturer for purchase by law enforcement or military agencies only, unless other ammunition is available to the general public that has physical properties resulting in ballistics performance identical to such ammunition.
                            ...
                            https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/san_francisco/latest/sf_police/0-0-0-9864?

                            So, NO, the claim that SF bans hollow point projectiles in general is not correct. Whether an individual officer or deputy might believe that is true is a different discussion.
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                            • #29
                              WithinReason
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 746

                              Originally posted by Librarian

                              Just to tie a bow on this, SF restricts ammunition at section 618 in the city codes

                              https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/san_francisco/latest/sf_police/0-0-0-9864

                              So, NO, the claim that SF bans hollow point projectiles in general is not correct. Whether an individual officer or deputy might believe that is true is a different discussion.

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