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  • #61
    Cokebottle
    Seņor Member
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2009
    • 32373

    Originally posted by babe
    Finally, I wouldn't tell my husband this, but I have my doubts about a man in his mid 50's having the reflexes to confidently use a gun under a fast moving and stressful self defense situation. I would say my husband is a typical man of his age, and I would also say the typical 55 year old will have a hard time reacting to the typical 19 year old attacker. Overall, I think we are safer selectively carrying under circumstances were we are more likely to encounter a threat.
    As I man in his mid 50s who got his permit just a few years ago....

    I would much rather go up against a 19 year old armed than hand-to-hand.

    Unarmed, I'm a defenseless sitting duck. Armed, I at least have a chance.

    Remember, CCW carries with it the element of surprise. There is a fine line between being inconspicuous and appearing to be a "soft" target. Situational awareness and the element of surprise helps to offset slowed reflexes.
    - Rich

    Originally posted by dantodd
    A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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    • #62
      tawadc95
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2017
      • 565

      Old bald guy,

      Funny, never read it that way till you fifm!

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      • #63
        RustyIron
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2014
        • 569

        Originally posted by babe
        Finally, I wouldn't tell my husband this, but I have my doubts about a man in his mid 50's having the reflexes to confidently use a gun under a fast moving and stressful self defense situation. I would say my husband is a typical man of his age, and I would also say the typical 55 year old will have a hard time reacting to the typical 19 year old attacker.
        I don't know your husband, I don't know you, and it's not my business to interfere in the disagreements of a married couple. But you asked, so I'll come right out and say that you clearly don't understand the dynamics of a physical encounter.

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        • #64
          CACCW
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2017
          • 53

          Seriously?

          First:
          Ageism is not ok! Once 21 age does not matter! The older one gets one could say the better the victim.

          Second:
          It's more dangerous for someone who does not carry all the time than someone who never carries or can't legally carry. (You get into a mindset that you're armed and you hopefully avoiding problems)

          Third:
          When your grandkids are over (depending on their age) that's when you simply remind your husband that we need to keep extra care of our weapons.

          Fourth:
          Help you husband come up with a plan on what to do with his weapon once he removes it from his body.

          Fifth:
          Bad guys never call ahead and tell you when they are coming, keep that in mind.

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          • #65
            Mopar Guy
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2014
            • 615

            Originally posted by babe
            I think our big problem is that we have two protocols and are hesitant to get away from that. No kids in the house so for the past 15 years, my husband has kept his homedefense gun in the nightstand. He has an old revolver that he insists on leaving in a kitchen cupboard since that's where I am most of the time. Finally, he keeps his catry gun in his desk drawer, where he is most of the time. Nothing is locked, everything is loaded and easily accessible.

            Now that we've got grandkids, when we know they're coming over, all the guns get unloaded and put in the safe the night before. We feel slightly less safe around the house in this condition, so probably wouldn't switch to it permanently. The time my husband left his carry gun on the desk, grandkids were due over in two days. He said he put it on the desk when he sat down, planning to lock it up, but then forgot.

            The time he left the gun on the kitchen counter was years ago. We had come back from dinner and he had had a big meal and said the gun felt too tight in his IWB. He took it off mmediately upon entering the door, used the bathroom and went upstairs to bed. Broke his routine and completely forgot about it. Both times, we were the only people living in the house.
            I think the risk is dramatically lower with no kids. Yet, discipline should still be thought out. My thoughts, just lock em up. Likelihood is low, yet a good practice. Always carry when you need to. Night stand, maybe use a quick access safe. Or, get a picture and frame, then have a 357 behind it. Just open the frame and you have it ready to go. Also, take inventory of all the weapons before the kids arrive. I still look at a firearm as a last resort. There are lots of controls. Lights, dogs (if you have one), locks, cameras for the ones who have really nice stuff, build a safe room? Training is good. Nice to get a refresher, maybe join a shooting club?

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            • #66
              caliberetta
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 2751

              Originally posted by babe
              He cannot guarantee me that he will never leave his gun out again.
              Did he really say this? ... He cannot guarantee he will not leave his gun out?

              If that is true, then the answer to your original question is not that hard. Now that you have grandkids running around the house, he probably should not carry. Just leave the guns in the safe all the time.

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              • #67
                titan2
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 908

                Originally posted by back4more70
                Agreed. I have renter's insurance, but I've never had to use it.
                But you'll be glad you have it when the need arises!!!

                I not fast enough to 'Out Run Them' and TOO OLD to 'Take a Beating' so all I got to say to any THUG thinking I'm a soft target is to 'Say Hello To My Little Friend'!!!

                UT - Done
                AZ - Done
                NV - Done
                CA - Done

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                • #68
                  titan2
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 908

                  Originally posted by FresnoRob
                  I would say you proved my point. You trained yourself when you take it off to put it in the lock box. I'm older than Babe's husband and I have trained myself to always put it in the same place when I disarm. No kids or grandkids to worry about, but it's on me or I know exactly where it is.
                  +1

                  I got at least a decade on Babe's hubby....and I have a routine and I know where everything is....keys, money, wallet & my EDC!!!
                  UT - Done
                  AZ - Done
                  NV - Done
                  CA - Done

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                  • #69
                    titan2
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 908

                    Originally posted by babe
                    Honestly, live in a neighborhood where houses are close to $1million with gates as opposed to when we were younger and we lived in a $250k neighborhood with bums. Be old fogies who don't go out late at night. Stick to a routine. We know the cashier at our grocery store...rarely ever see a strange car in the neighborhood. I can honestly say it's been 7 years since we've seen anything thats made at all suspicious.

                    Now if we were ever to venture out of that comfort zone, my husband would definitely be carrying. Trips to visit the kids. Night out at the movies...even when my husband drives me down to costco or we take the dog to the beach. But that isn't every day, or even every week. I would say he carries 3-5x per month on average.
                    Let me see.....where would the BAD guys want to go to get the 'Good Stuff'??? The local ghetto, poor side of town or maybe the nicer more affluent neighborhoods??? Could be they just haven't run out of places more local to themselves that they can rob/steal from......don't worry, they'll get to your area soon enough!!! Don't forget, the State is letting more and more of these 'So Called' NON-VIOLENT offender out of prison every day.....they need to make their money some how, don't they!!!
                    UT - Done
                    AZ - Done
                    NV - Done
                    CA - Done

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                    • #70
                      titan2
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 908

                      Originally posted by babe
                      I think our big problem is that we have two protocols and are hesitant to get away from that. No kids in the house so for the past 15 years, my husband has kept his homedefense gun in the nightstand. He has an old revolver that he insists on leaving in a kitchen cupboard since that's where I am most of the time. Finally, he keeps his catry gun in his desk drawer, where he is most of the time. Nothing is locked, everything is loaded and easily accessible.

                      Now that we've got grandkids, when we know they're coming over, all the guns get unloaded and put in the safe the night before. We feel slightly less safe around the house in this condition, so probably wouldn't switch to it permanently. The time my husband left his carry gun on the desk, grandkids were due over in two days. He said he put it on the desk when he sat down, planning to lock it up, but then forgot.

                      The time he left the gun on the kitchen counter was years ago. We had come back from dinner and he had had a big meal and said the gun felt too tight in his IWB. He took it off mmediately upon entering the door, used the bathroom and went upstairs to bed. Broke his routine and completely forgot about it. Both times, we were the only people living in the house.
                      WHY??? Leave them loaded.....they're NOT going to shoot anybody in the Safe, are they???

                      My EDC is only unloaded when it's shot at the range or being cleaned....other than that, it's loaded!!! And as far as my other weapons go....they are ALL treated as loaded (even though I know they're NOT), until I clear them the first time I pick them up!!!
                      Last edited by titan2; 06-13-2017, 10:31 AM.
                      UT - Done
                      AZ - Done
                      NV - Done
                      CA - Done

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                      • #71
                        Old_Bald_Guy
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2901

                        Originally posted by titan2
                        But you'll be glad you have it when the need arises!!!



                        I not fast enough to 'Out Run Them' and TOO OLD to 'Take a Beating' so all I got to say to any THUG thinking I'm a soft target is to 'Say Hello To My Little Friend'!!!









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                        • #72
                          robert101
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1997

                          The OP can suggest what she wants to her husband. I elect to carry legally and will do so until I can't anymore. That very well may involve a walker or a rascal. A little slower at my age, ok, so what? I am mentally fit, better able to cope with situational awareness, and will continue to protect my family to the best of my ability. Everything is related to response. Don't think you will have only a spilt second to make a decision. Those instances are more likely to happen to a police officer but not so much to an every day Joe. Don't sweat the small stuff. Leave that to others and don't worry about the 20 year olds. By the way, I'm over 60, still enjoy weight training, men's softball, off-roading, and much more.

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                          • #73
                            fawndog
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 856

                            Originally posted by ZirconJohn
                            Ridiculous!

                            Throw your husband under the bus much?

                            Show your husband some respect.
                            Respect has nothing to do with it, she's more aware of his abilities than any of us.

                            Babe, your husband doesn't need to come out of a confrontation unscathed. He does need to be able to protect his life and yours. Is that more likely to happen without a firearm ?

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