Santa Cruz

[Gray Peterson]

Santa Cruz County CCW Policy, Good Cause statements, Guidelines and Forms can be found Here


2014 Nov 15 UPDATE: Per my (Paladin's) post in this thread today (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...8#post15266388), you should apply ASAP if your Good Cause is "self-defense"/"personal protection" to get a space in line for processing after Peruta is finalized.

2015 Sept 18 UPDATE: Per my (Paladin's) post in this thread today (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...9#post16944869), the SO says there'll be no change at least after the Peruta en banc panel renders its opinion.

[Paladin]

From the "CCW UPDATE" link on their homepage (http://scsheriff.com/):

CCW UPDATE

Members of the public wishing to obtain a CCW under the standards recently articulated by the Ninth Circuit in Peruta v. County of San Diego should be aware that the decision has not yet become final. Federal court rules prescribe a period of time which must elapse before the case is remanded to the District Court for further proceedings.

Applicants that seek a CCW permit under the self-defense standard set forth in Peruta will be processed in the order they are received should the decision of the Ninth Circuit become final. Once the decision becomes final, applicants will be contacted by the Sheriff’s Office with instructions on how to complete the process.

In order to accommodate, and expedite, the large numbers of anticipated applications, the Sheriff’s Office and County Counsel are currently revising the process for issuing CCW permits. (emphasis added)

I'll update the OP and the thread title now.

[Grumpy_Hippie]

anything new

[otteray]

anything new

Nope.
Peruta has to be resolved first.

[Paladin]

From the "CCW UPDATE" link on their homepage (http://scsheriff.com/):

CCW UPDATE

Members of the public wishing to obtain a CCW under the standards recently articulated by the Ninth Circuit in Peruta v. County of San Diego should be aware that the decision has not yet become final. Federal court rules prescribe a period of time which must elapse before the case is remanded to the District Court for further proceedings.

Applicants that seek a CCW permit under the self-defense standard set forth in Peruta will be processed in the order they are received should the decision of the Ninth Circuit become final. Once the decision becomes final, applicants will be contacted by the Sheriff’s Office with instructions on how to complete the process.

In order to accommodate, and expedite, the large numbers of anticipated applications, the Sheriff’s Office and County Counsel are currently revising the process for issuing CCW permits. (emphasis added)

I'll update the OP and the thread title now.

I don't know when they changed it, but there is now a new "CCW UPDATE" linked on their homepage:

CCW UPDATE

Members of the public seeking to obtain a CCW permit under the standards articulated by the Ninth Circuit in Peruta v. County of San Diego should be aware that on March 26, 2015 the Ninth Circuit ordered that the Peruta case be re-heard by a larger panel of judges. At some point in the future, the Ninth Circuit will issue a new opinion addressing the issues discussed in the Peruta case. Until the Ninth Circuit issues a new opinion, the Santa Cruz County Sheriff’s Office will continue to review applications for CCW permits under the standards it utilized prior to issuance of the original Peruta decision.

Well, at least they're actively monitoring Peruta and revising things as it progresses.

[mattsn0w]

I don't know when they changed it, but there is now a new "CCW UPDATE" linked on their homepage:



Well, at least they're actively monitoring Peruta and revising things as it progresses.

It has been there for almost a year.

[Paladin]

It has been there for almost a year.

That was the 1st update (which, as you can see, I had added to the OP on 2014 Nov 15). I'm talking about the 2nd update, the one about Peruta being taken en banc which I added to the OP yesterday.

[sbcfd]

looking at the Sheriffs office website they have a CCW policy in place as of 6/18/16. Has anyone applied?

[otteray]

looking at the Sheriffs office website they have a CCW policy in place as of 6/18/16. Has anyone applied?

Many applied and all denied.
After Peruta was put into a suspended state thanks to Att. Gen. Harris, we were sent a letter from the S.O. explaining our two choices: Go forward with the request (and get denied) or be put on hold until Peruta was ultimately decided (Circular file.)

[NinjaNinja]

Many applied and all denied.
After Peruta was put into a suspended state thanks to Att. Gen. Harris, we were sent a letter from the S.O. explaining our two choices: Go forward with the request (and get denied) or be put on hold until Peruta was ultimately decided (Circular file.)

this county is still a no go huh?

[otteray]

Cities of Watsonville and Scotts Valley may have recently issued a few licenses through their own PD, and not the SO. How many or why, I do not know.

[Paladin]

Cities of Watsonville and Scotts Valley may have recently issued a few licenses through their own PD, and not the SO. How many or why, I do not know.

Anyone have any more/new info re. this?

ETA: I briefly looked over their PDs' websites and did not find any CCW info.

https://cityofwatsonville.org/197/Police

http://www.scottsvalleypd.com/

[Paladin]

To help a CGNer in another thread asking about the City of Santa Cruz and CCWs I had to look over the current materials on the SO's website re. CCWs. I saw that they require 3 letters of character reference (non-relatives), mandatory Psych Eval and possible required letter from Medical Doc saying you're okay to carry. See: http://scsheriff.com/Portals/1/Count...CW_Process.pdf

Then I noticed something big: there is NO CHARGE to you for ANYTHING until AFTER your GC is evaluated and you're approved!

That is NOT the behavior of an anti sheriff.

Once you've been approved (passed Phase 1 and told to continue to Phase 2), then you get hit with the LiveScan fee (~$100 IIRC), the Psych Eval fee (max of $150), possible MD fee ($???), 8 hour training class fee ($???), and ONLY $25 fee for the SO! Again: That is NOT the behavior of an anti sheriff.

While I could find NOTHING re. GC on the website (http://scsheriff.com/Home/CCWLicense.aspx), if it is FREE to apply to get your GC evaluated, why not apply??? Spend a month figuring out your best GC statement, figure out all the evidence you can muster to prove your GC actually exists (i.e., you aren't BSing the sheriff ), then apply!

To repeat myself: I did NOT find anything detailing GC, but these other things are not what anti sheriffs do. IMO, Santa Cruz may be doing what Monterey SO did years ago: loosen the GC requirement, but push GMC up to make sure only GGs get CCWs. But that is just a guess. Until people apply and post on CGN, we'll never know if things improved in Santa Cruz. But since applying and getting your GC approved/denied costs NOTHING, why not apply? Remember: a denial for insufficient GC does NOT hurt you in the future (but a denial for lacking GMC may...).

[SCruzsurfer]

To help a CGNer in another thread asking about the City of Santa Cruz and CCWs I had to look over the current materials on the SO's website re. CCWs. I saw that they require 3 letters of character reference (non-relatives), mandatory Psych Eval and possible required letter from Medical Doc saying you're okay to carry. See: http://scsheriff.com/Portals/1/Count...CW_Process.pdf

Then I noticed something big: there is NO CHARGE to you for ANYTHING until AFTER your GC is evaluated and you're approved!

That is NOT the behavior of an anti sheriff.

Once you've been approved (passed Phase 1 and told to continue to Phase 2), then you get hit with the LiveScan fee (~$100 IIRC), the Psych Eval fee (max of $150), possible MD fee ($???), 8 hour training class fee ($???), and ONLY $25 fee for the SO! Again: That is NOT the behavior of an anti sheriff.

While I could find NOTHING re. GC on the website (http://scsheriff.com/Home/CCWLicense.aspx), if it is FREE to apply to get your GC evaluated, why not apply??? Spend a month figuring out your best GC statement, figure out all the evidence you can muster to prove your GC actually exists (i.e., you aren't BSing the sheriff ), then apply!

To repeat myself: I did NOT find anything detailing GC, but these other things are not what anti sheriffs do. IMO, Santa Cruz may be doing what Monterey SO did years ago: loosen the GC requirement, but push GMC up to make sure only GGs get CCWs. But that is just a guess. Until people apply and post on CGN, we'll never know if things improved in Santa Cruz. But since applying and getting your GC approved/denied costs NOTHING, why not apply? Remember: a denial for insufficient GC does NOT hurt you in the future (but a denial for lacking GMC may...).

I did apply. You DO have to pay for the livescan (yes it was in the $100ish range) and the application fee. I did this twice. First was rejected (my 'good cause' wasn't good enough), second actually went to the interview stage, then Peruta got over-turned and my application is in a limbo (although I'm assuming it's been filed in the circular receptacle). I repeat, it is NOT free to apply. The current sheriff, is VERY anti carry. There are very few people in Santa Cruz County w/ permits, and seems like you have to have 'connections' in order to get one. Nothing has improved here. We had that brief glimmer of hope w/ Peruta, but that is long gone. Sorry there isn't a better end to this story.

[Paladin]

I did apply. You DO have to pay for the livescan (yes it was in the $100ish range) and the application fee. I did this twice. First was rejected (my 'good cause' wasn't good enough), second actually went to the interview stage, then Peruta got over-turned and my application is in a limbo (although I'm assuming it's been filed in the circular receptacle). I repeat, it is NOT free to apply. The current sheriff, is VERY anti carry. There are very few people in Santa Cruz County w/ permits, and seems like you have to have 'connections' in order to get one. Nothing has improved here. We had that brief glimmer of hope w/ Peruta, but that is long gone. Sorry there isn't a better end to this story.

When did Peruta get over turned: 2015? 2016? Your 2nd App was before that and your 1st app was before your 2nd.... Those are irrelevant. Hart didn't even take office, IIRC, until Jan 2015. I'm talking about what's on the SO website today.

Either (1) I'm misreading what they put on their website, or (2) what they posted is a mistake, or (3) they've changed their CCW process. If I lived in SC Co, I'd contact them via their FB page and ask about the current process. (There's no fee for that, that I'm aware of. )