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  • #31
    choprzrul
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2009
    • 6544

    Page 19:

    Cause for need of CCW Permit is simply: PERSONAL PROTECTION
    What am I missing? None of us can leave our houses without being in close proximity to thugs at some point. We need CCW for personal protection.

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    • #32
      wildhawker
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2008
      • 14150

      Hang tight in SB.
      Brandon Combs

      I do not read private messages, and my inbox is usually full. If you need to reach me, please email me instead.

      My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer.

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      • #33
        gtturborex
        CGSSA Coordinator
        CGN Contributor
        • Mar 2009
        • 4783

        Originally posted by mustang454
        I know one FFL holder who kept his CCW here in Goleta/Santa Barbara ca.when Sheriff Bill Brown got elected BUT with sever restrictions on his CCW. No restrictions on CCW's before Brown got elected......
        With a lot of restrictions. To, during, and from work only? Isn't this overly restrictive for a right?
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        • #34
          gtturborex
          CGSSA Coordinator
          CGN Contributor
          • Mar 2009
          • 4783

          Originally posted by wildhawker
          Hang tight in SB.
          Thanks again Brandon. Holding tight here...
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          • #35
            Fjold
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Oct 2005
            • 22800

            Originally posted by gtturborex
            Did you talk to Dirk by chance? He's a very cool guy and I am glad he got on to city council.

            Dirk is one of my best friends. Ask him about our hunting trip to Wyoming.
            Frank

            One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




            Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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            • #36
              dswenk
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 3





              If you have any questions about this, please feel free to contact me directly via email, or by telephone. - Craig
              Sergeant Craig Bonner
              Santa Barbara Sheriff's Department
              Office of Professional Standards
              (805) 681-4292

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              • #37
                GrizzlyGuy
                Gun Runner to The Stars
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • May 2009
                • 5468

                Quoting from the reply:

                Originally posted by dswenk
                Sheriff Brown supports the 2nd amendment to the United States Constitution (Right to bear arms).
                This shows once again why such a statement is meaningless. Obviously this isn't true.

                Originally posted by dswenk
                As result of this decision making "ability", the county sheriff (both as an individual and their department as a whole) incurs potential civil liability for each and every concealed carry permit they issue.
                Are they not aware of Section 6 in the standard application?:

                Section 6 – Agreement to Restrictions and to Hold Harmless

                I accept and assume all responsibility and liability for, injury to, or death of any person, or damage to any property which may result through any act or omission of either the licensee or the agency that issued the license. In the event any claim, suit or action is brought against the agency that issued the license, its chief officer or any of its employees, by reason of, or in connection with any such act or omission, the licensee shall defend, indemnify, and hold harmless the agency that issued the license, its chief officer or any of its employees from such claim, suit, or action...
                Seems to me that their most significant civil liability comes from continuing to inhibit civil rights by pursuing their hardly-ever-issue policy.

                Queue bwiese: 'when you absolutely-positively need to sue every *** in the room'
                Gun law complexity got you down? Get the FAQs, Jack!

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                • #38
                  gtturborex
                  CGSSA Coordinator
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 4783

                  It is not like we are asking for sharks with "laser" beams attached to their heads.

                  All we want is our god given "rights"

                  Sounds like this county may be a little tougher than thought.

                  Only two weeks right?
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                  • #39
                    gpsmatt
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 17

                    Glad to see this I will be donating.

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                    • #40
                      jordan
                      Junior Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 10

                      yes, very glad to see some progress in our county finally.

                      I will be making a contribution as well. lets take some action on this.
                      Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'.

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                      • #41
                        gtturborex
                        CGSSA Coordinator
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 4783

                        jordan
                        yes, very glad to see some progress in our county finally.

                        I will be making a contribution as well. lets take some action on this.
                        Originally posted by gpsmatt
                        Glad to see this I will be donating.
                        Awesome guys. Here is the sponsorship page if you haven't seen it yet

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                        • #42
                          Ford8N
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 6129

                          Reading some the good cause statements, a lot seem pretty lame. Yea, we all have pissed somebody off, walked past really bad people in dark mall parking lots, are neighbors to some scum bags and live, work and travel in really bad areas. We all carry large amounts of cash and guns, sometimes more than gun dealers(FFL's)! The line is to arbitrary as to what is a threat. I can find some poor soul living in a crappy area of Santa Maria who deserves a CCW more than some pilot or retired cop living in a gated community in Santa Barbara.

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                          • #43
                            gtturborex
                            CGSSA Coordinator
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 4783

                            Originally posted by Ford8N
                            Reading some the good cause statements, a lot seem pretty lame. Yea, we all have pissed somebody off, walked past really bad people in dark mall parking lots, are neighbors to some scum bags and live, work and travel in really bad areas. We all carry large amounts of cash and guns, sometimes more than gun dealers(FFL's)! The line is to arbitrary as to what is a threat. I can find some poor soul living in a crappy area of Santa Maria who deserves a CCW more than some pilot or retired cop living in a gated community in Santa Barbara.
                            Exactly the reason we all should have them
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                            • #44
                              edog11
                              Member
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 104

                              Originally posted by Ford8N
                              Reading some the good cause statements, a lot seem pretty lame. Yea, we all have pissed somebody off, walked past really bad people in dark mall parking lots, are neighbors to some scum bags and live, work and travel in really bad areas. We all carry large amounts of cash and guns, sometimes more than gun dealers(FFL's)! The line is to arbitrary as to what is a threat. I can find some poor soul living in a crappy area of Santa Maria who deserves a CCW more than some pilot or retired cop living in a gated community in Santa Barbara.

                              Yeah Im on one the poor souls living in the crappy area of Santa Maria.

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                              • #45
                                Killface
                                Junior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 2

                                Just browsed a few of the good cause statements. Noticed that page 7 or so was a judge who stated the need was due to threats made on other judges. I work in an unpopular field as well (animal research at the university) and several of my collaborators have received repeated death threats, including homes and a vehicle set on fire. Haven't applied, but I'm guessing the threats toward us aren't going to be viewed quite equally as those toward judges within the system...

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