San Bernardino

[WASR10]

It did go well, now the wait for the background and for the training class. One thing they did not give me the consent form to be notarized when I come in for the interveiw, if you pick up a packet and did not get a white paper that has to be notarized call them so they can mail it to you hopefully. I ran down the street to Waterman and Orange show Rd, there is a guy that does notary got it taken care of and returned it the same day...

The class is pretty fun. Bring a lunch and make sure to leave your firearms in the car. Waiting is the hardest part!

[bikr4jc]

I heard that they make fun of you if you have 3 guns on your permit at the class. Is this true?

[Splitz909]

I heard that they make fun of you if you have 3 guns on your permit at the class. Is this true?

They make fun of a lot of things in the class. The instructor is a funny guy.

[bikr4jc]

OK, I have 3 on my permit, just wanted to be ready. If it all in fun I'm good with that...

[Warpath650]

Just got my appointment... October

Well I called in to verify my appointment date and was told they had No record of my appointment.

[Warpath650]

I need your help people, what options do I have or what type of formal complain can I put in? Can I use my post here as prove? The lady at the desk said appointments were not issued until late March. I made mine 2-22-12 a day after I received my pack. I also have a private message from another Calgun member who made his appointment on 3-6 for an appointment date of 10-23. Is there anything I can do?


p.s. While talking to the lady I jumped on here to make sure I had the right month for my appointment. I casually explain to her I was on this site and she seemed upset at me mentioning Calguns.net><

[IEShooter]

Waiting

Sorry to hear about the delay. It is doubtful that a formal complaint will help. Sounds as if there was a simple mix-up on their end. It happens. Joyce and the nice folks who work there do great work but are human just like the rest of us.

If you "dropped multiple four letter words" on the phone with the folks at employee resources, that would be a very, very bad thing. It's not clear from your post, but I hope you controlled yourself while on the phone and dropped the words after you hung up.

Trying to show them posts you made on an internet forum as "proof" isn't going to help anything.

Believe it or not, CalGuns doesn't have a very good reputation with many folks out there. I don't think it's the leadership here, nor is it CGF and the work they do (on the whole). In my opinion, it is the all to frequent posts by people who, well.... let's just say they aren't all that balanced.

My suggestion is to calm down, give it a week or so, then call back and see if there is anything they can do to get you in earlier. Remain calm and polite, even if they tell you that you need to wait until next year. Getting angry or emotional isn't going to help you. In fact, they may feel that you have anger issues and deny your application.

Please try and keep things in perspective. You and I may feel that being able to bear arms is a constitutional right. Unfortunately, the case law isn't quite there to support that yet. With any luck, we'll see a SCOTUS "bear" case in the next year or two that will make it very clear. Until then, SBCSO views it as a privelage that they can bestow, or not. Please keep that in mind, but also don't forget that they approve nearly everyone who applies. It's a matter of when, not if, unless you mess it up.

I know this isn't what you want to hear, but you asked for advice and I honestly feel that what I described is your best course of action.

Good luck.

[Warpath650]

I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear, all the F-bombs came after I was off the phone lol.

On another note, I thought I was beyond the age of crying like a little girl who just lost her favorite doll.

[IEShooter]

Waiting

I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear, all the F-bombs came after I was off the phone lol.

On another note, I thought I was beyond the age of crying like a little girl who just lost her favorite doll.

That's excellent news. Glad to hear you controlled yourself on the phone. Now, you have nothing to overcome except the waiting.

I understand that you're disappointed. Heck, I would be to.

If it is any consolation, getting the actual permit is pretty anti-climatic. The clouds don't part, nor is there any lightening or thunder. There's a learning curve to carrying that we all go through. Heck, years on and I'm still changing out guns and holsters. Nothing works perfectly for me for all situations.

Before you know it, you'll be napping on the couch wearing your gun and it will become second nature.

[Warpath650]

I live up in Victorville and plan on going down to see Joyce and see if there is anything that can be done to help my case.

Shortly after I got off the phone I wondered if they get people from time to time trying to bypass the wait list with stories of " But I made my Appointment!"

I picked up my pack on 2-21-12 (it is stamped on the pack) and promptly posted the news on this thread. The fallowing day I made the appointment 2-22-12 and posted the good news here.

The day I picked up the CCW pack.

Hi all! Long time lurker here. I just picked up my CCW application. I have read most post on it and Ijust want to make sure I'm doing it correctly. I lucked out both of my neighbors are LEO and we get along great and my boss is pro-gun

1- Make my appointment Asap, correct?
2- Should I have my LEO neighbors write my letters or should they be part of the 4 who they contact? Also, do they contact all four or is it random?

I guess that is all for now and thank you in advanced for the help.

Next day when I made the appointment.

Just got my appointment... October

Message from a fellow CalGunner whose dates correlate with my story

Hello I saw your post about being out into october for your interview and being put on the "pest" list (thats what my wife called it lol). I did mine shortly after you on 3-6-12 and got appointment for 10-23. I was hopping you would let me know when you get in so I can count on maybe 1-5 cancelations after you as they told me my ref and utility bills can only be 90 days old so I havent gotten those yet. Im really excited and think about it everyday. I should have done this a long time ago and kick myself all the time . Thanks,
**** in Rancho Cuc.

So my last and only option is to beg Joyce to take pity and allow me to get an earlier date. I have all of my paperwork and letters ready to go. Wish me luck!

[bbcsnowman]

Got the call to take the range class on the 22nd, finally.

[ivsamhell]

SBC is 'virtually' virtual shall issue so you have a fairly good chance of getting a CCW if you apply. HOWEVER, they do have a lot of illegal requirements. I am personally working on this matter with the CGF and I suggest you wait until I get in touch with them over these issues. Of course, if you don't mind the illegal requirements you could just apply now. Again though, I suggest you wait.

SB249 and other time sensitive requirements in some of the cases that had been stayed pending Nordyke's final resolution demanded immediate attention. That was a temporary pause in Sunshine and Compliance initiatives...

There is a conference call next week to get things back on track and ramped up again...

Whats the update? threads about two years old with none. What has happened? What is going to happen?

[Gray Peterson]

UPDATE: We are seeking new applicants who reside in cities patrolled by police departments (not contracted sheriffs) who can help us challenging their "get denied by the city first" policy before being allowed application to the sheriff.

In Chicago, a patriot named Shawn Gowder, despite being without a handgun in their home for nearly two years while his federal court case was proceeding, won in US District Court to strike down their "violent misdemeanor" law as vague. See more about that: Gowder v. City of Chicago press release announcement from Ammoland

We seek NEW applicants who can do the same as Mr. Gowder. San Bernardino is doing numerous illegal things which is unlawfully and illegally suppressing the application pool. There should be 28,000 licenses in San Bernardino, but there are only around 4-5K. The reason is because of the illegal things which frustrate people and causes them not to apply.

Please LTC Volunteer. The more people we get who are willing to challenge, the better.

[supwicha]

I may have posted this question previously in the wrong place, my apologies. I applied and successfully received my CCW in Shasta county about 18 months ago, it was issued for the entire state or "within California" as stated on the permit. Is it going to be difficult to renew now that I am in San Bernardino county and what is the process? I assumed the "hard part" was going to get it in the first place, and renewal would not be so challenging. I currently live in Victorville. Do I have to apply there first? Will I automatically be denied?

[Knauga]

I may have posted this question previously in the wrong place, my apologies. I applied and successfully received my CCW in Shasta county about 18 months ago, it was issued for the entire state or "within California" as stated on the permit. Is it going to be difficult to renew now that I am in San Bernardino county and what is the process? I assumed the "hard part" was going to get it in the first place, and renewal would not be so challenging. I currently live in Victorville. Do I have to apply there first? Will I automatically be denied?

The lousy part of California law on the subject is that you are a new applicant so you have to go through the entire process.

To answer your question, Victorville is a contract city with the Sheriff's Dept so you can apply directly to the Sheriff. As you already have a CCW in another county and are just relocating, you shouldn't have any issues with the Sheriff's illegal 1 year residency requirement.... hopefully. But that might be a good one for CGF to get involved with if they are already looking to deal with other illegal requirements.

You should have no problem getting a new CCW in SBC, but they have a heck of a backlog for applicants. Good luck!