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[MCM]

I’m looking at the CCW process for the first time as an OC resident.

Can someone point me in the right direction for how much I can expect to pay as a first time applicant and when those payments are due?

I see first time applicants need to pay $169 to the department. Is that right way at the onset or at the end of the process?

I know I will also need to pay for training. What is the average cost there? And do I take the training course during my application process or beforehand?

Any other major costs I’m missing? From what I can gather, I’m guessing it’ll be around $400-500 total, but need to know when I should expect to pay all that throughout the 3-6 month process.

Thanks!

Looks like it is pay as you go. I submitted a renewal app. yesterday. Paid at the end / per instructions on the last page. Then was refunded this morning.
It mentions that you do not pay on the 1st pg. or 2 until approved in person. Then is set up for payment at the end in order to submit the application?
May have the same in the past? don't remember..

"Your application is in process, but we have refunded the online payment that was submitted with your CCW application.
Our system is not set up to process the payment once it is received on our end. The refund should show credited to your account in the next 5 to 7 business days.

Your application will continue through the process and you will be sent notification of the payment procedure once a decision is granted on your application.
If you should have any questions, please feel free to contact your assigned processor or ccwpermits@ocsheriff.gov


Thank you for your understanding,"

[heyitsyeh]

Breaking: AG Bonta just issued "effective immediately that issuing authorities should no longer require proof of good cause for the issuance of a public-carry license".

Also I found a couple of appointment openings for October 2022

[9Cal_OC]

Can I add more firearm between submitting the application and the interview/training?

Yes

[heyitsyeh]

Can I add more firearm between submitting the application and the interview/training?

[MCM]

If its anything like renewal, you pay the application fee when its submitted.
So for you $169.00 just to get going.

It really is a rip off. But I do it every 2 years.
2 yr. Renewal is less. $83.65 to re-apply. 4 hr training, guessing around $80.00
And you get to waist a bunch of ammo. Going to 3 guns from 5 this time.
And 3/4 tank of gas.

[socal m1 shooter]

I’m looking at the CCW process for the first time as an OC resident.

Can someone point me in the right direction for how much I can expect to pay as a first time applicant and when those payments are due?

I see first time applicants need to pay $169 to the department. Is that right way at the onset or at the end of the process?

I know I will also need to pay for training. What is the average cost there? And do I take the training course during my application process or beforehand?

Any other major costs I’m missing? From what I can gather, I’m guessing it’ll be around $400-500 total, but need to know when I should expect to pay all that throughout the 3-6 month process.

Thanks!

OCSD has a schedule of fees posted.

You'll have to pay for a background check, a.k.a. LiveScan, which will include a rolling fee (at least $25) plus the LiveScan fee ($93).

Training plus ammo (72 rounds for the first gun on your permit, 20 rounds for each additional gun) starts at $220 at Artemis, and if you travel, you might consider also paying an additional fee for AZ/UT and possibly FL.

Many training vendors can do multi-state for you; Artemis charges $100 for that service, and you walk out the door with everything ready to drop in the mail (fingerprint cards, photos).

All-in-all, you're probably looking at $600-$700 minimum, to get rolling, depending on what you have and what you need.

Regarding the timing, the training certificate is good for six months, so it may be wise to apply first, and then get trained when OCSD says to do that, or (my preference) a month or so after submitting, but I am not watching the timelines in this thread very carefully, so do your own due diligence to inform that decision.

[ct78]

I’m looking at the CCW process for the first time as an OC resident.

Can someone point me in the right direction for how much I can expect to pay as a first time applicant and when those payments are due?

I see first time applicants need to pay $169 to the department. Is that right way at the onset or at the end of the process?

I know I will also need to pay for training. What is the average cost there? And do I take the training course during my application process or beforehand?

Any other major costs I’m missing? From what I can gather, I’m guessing it’ll be around $400-500 total, but need to know when I should expect to pay all that throughout the 3-6 month process.

Thanks!

[Dvrjon]

Tone deaf arrogance.

Yea I really don't get what's the holdup. The language is pretty clear in the Supreme Court, California defers to the county sheriffs to figure out licensing, and the change in this case is simply to drop good cause. Should not take a genius to figure out what to do.

Run for Sheriff….Then you can make all the snap decisions you want. This is a major structural change which dwarfs Peruta. There is no value in moving quickly and screwing up when you can take a bit of time, understand what this really means and craft a policy which complies.

JUSTICE Gorsuch noted:

Objective shall-issue licensing regimes for carrying handguns for self-defense may continue to do so. Likewise, the 6 States including New York potentially affected by today’s decision may continue to require licenses for carrying hand-guns for self-defense so long as those States employ objective licensing requirements like those used by the 43 shall-issue States.

[…]Heller and McDonald established and the Court today again explains, the Second Amendment “is neither a regulatory straightjacket nor a regulatory blank check.” Ante, at 21. Properly interpreted, the Second Amendment allows a “variety” of gun regulations.

The ruling impacts current CA law. The Legislature has some vehicles in place which they hope to enact by the end of this month.

Senator Portantino is already a part of this, gutting a 2d House bill to impact CCW law in the state:

The SCOTUS decision is a setback for safety. I am grateful that we had a plan in place to protect our current and future legislative gun control efforts. In the wake of the Texas tragedy and the continued threat of mass shootings, it’s a moral imperative that California leads on this issue. I am proud to be working with the Attorney General and Governor Newsom on SB 918. It is critical legislation to strengthen our existing concealed carry laws to ensure every Californian is safe from gun violence. We must be diligent in addressing the gun violence epidemic in our country and concealed carry laws are a key component of this effort.”

SB 918

They will add to this in the coming days, add an Urgency Clause to take effect immediately, and pass it to the Governor by the end of Jun.

This is not cut and dried and is far from over….remember, it’s only been 5 years since they banned CCW on school/college/university campuses. They can also add penalties for carrying on private property with “no gun” signage.

[MCM]

Mine expires 9/5/22.
Am thinking about letting it go after all these years.
Still have a valid reason.
But its over $300.00 total with ammo.
And a general PITA.
Sad but true.

Will look into it, and might fold and renew.
Just wish it was more than 2 years, and less $$$$.

[heyitsyeh]

Tone deaf arrogance.

Yea I really don't get what's the holdup. The language is pretty clear in the Supreme Court, California defers to the county sheriffs to figure out licensing, and the change in this case is simply to drop good cause. Should not take a genius to figure out what to do.

[Megalomegalodon]

To update the info I posted. I did hear back from a Sgt today, she tells me they do have my application and are extremely busy. They are looking at 6 month lead times right now.

She also told me the payment is now handled by someone at OCSD calling for a CC number when the time comes.

Someone from their technical staff reset my password, so the tracker works for me now. I had done this previously already, not sure why the password reset worked for him and not me.

I called and they said they were a month and a half back. They are processing my renewal but if I expire before they get to it, just stop carrying.

[Guninator]

www.ocsheriff.gov/ccw. We remain mutually committed to public safety and the individual rights of the community we serve.

Tone deaf arrogance.

[user name]

Just heard interviews out till #029

[9Cal_OC]

I changed jobs and wouldn't qualify with my new job so I let mine lapse. And with the ne rules I should qualify. Do I sign back up as a renewal or a new sign up? It's been sux months

Apply as a new applicant (pretty much same as renewal without the interview). Worst case, they treat you as a lapse renewal and no interview is needed.

Wait on them asking for livescam (if it’s even needed).

But best approach is to email directly and get an answer from them.

[user name]

I changed jobs and wouldn't qualify with my new job so I let mine lapse. And with the ne rules I should qualify. Do I sign back up as a renewal or a new sign up? It's been sux months