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  • #91
    thedrickel
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2006
    • 5547

    lulz
    I hate people that are full of hate.

    It's not illegal to tip for PPT!

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    • #92
      taperxz
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2010
      • 19395

      Hail call Grey, when are you going to make the 9th rule on Nordyke? I have not "cut and run yet" However i wouldn't mind trying my friend out up north.

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      • #93
        edwardm
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 1939

        I am confused.

        Yesterday I was told, by someone who should probably know, that Sheriff Munks is accepting "self-defense" as sufficient GC. Or specifically, that the intentional CGF plants/volunteers that were run through SMCSO previously used "self-defense" as their GC. I have no reason to doubt the veracity of the person who told me this - they are in a position to know or have access to know. Furthermore, they are not one to play games or hand out B.S.

        Was I misinformed by this person, or did the terms "CGF" and "good cause", bring about preferential/blind-eye treatment for those folks who went through the process in late 2010? The most recent Gene post I can find on the topic, from another forum, is that 'elevated GC' is still required. I suppose it is possible that the term "self-defense" was misinterpreted when I asked my question, but I can't be sure of that.

        I just want to know who, if anyone, is blowing smoke, or if this is a case of crossed wires.



        Originally posted by hoffmang
        *cough* I've seen the actual powerpoint used and found it mildly useful and not very FUD. Please email me as I'd love to compare notes to see if yours was "old" or if I missed something when I "reviewed" it.

        Let me say this for those who are waiting; anyone who has any sort of good cause beyond simply self defense should feel free to apply and should expect to be successful.

        -Gene
        Last edited by edwardm; 02-25-2011, 4:34 AM. Reason: clarification

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        • #94
          hoffmang
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2006
          • 18448

          Originally posted by edwardm
          I am confused.

          Yesterday I was told, by someone who should probably know, that Sheriff Munks is accepting "self-defense" as sufficient GC. Or specifically, that the intentional CGF plants/volunteers that were run through SMCSO previously used "self-defense" as their GC. I have no reason to doubt the veracity of the person who told me this - they are in a position to know or have access to know. Furthermore, they are not one to play games or hand out B.S.
          Self defense as good cause has lead to two denials in San Mateo County. Any heightened cause above that has lead to multiple successful issuances. The denials were right after the loss in Peruta (thanks Ed.)

          We await Nordyke and Richards at this time. If you have more information than above, I'd appreciate an email.

          -Gene
          Gene Hoffman
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          • #95
            thedrickel
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2006
            • 5547

            Thanks, Ed!

            C'mooooooooooooooooon, Nordyke!




            . . . more like TWO DECADES! than TWO WEEKS! . . .
            I hate people that are full of hate.

            It's not illegal to tip for PPT!

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            • #96
              hoffmang
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2006
              • 18448

              Originally posted by thedrickel
              Thanks, Ed!

              C'mooooooooooooooooon, Nordyke!




              . . . more like TWO DECADES! than TWO WEEKS! . . .
              I have reason to believe we'll see Nordyke before Mid-May, worst case.

              -Gene
              Gene Hoffman
              Chairman, California Gun Rights Foundation

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              • #97
                trevilli
                Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 185

                Originally posted by hoffmang
                I have reason to believe we'll see Nordyke before Mid-May, worst case.
                What's your gut feeling on the "Will the 9th circuit get Nordyke right"? Have you looked at the makeup of the 9th? It's filled with appointees from President Carter. Leaving politics aside, we have to yet to find a judge in California who agrees with us on the carry issue. I realize you have no crystal ball (at least none that you'd admit to ) but what do you expect?

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                • #98
                  hoffmang
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 18448

                  Originally posted by trevilli
                  What's your gut feeling on the "Will the 9th circuit get Nordyke right"? Have you looked at the makeup of the 9th? It's filled with appointees from President Carter. Leaving politics aside, we have to yet to find a judge in California who agrees with us on the carry issue. I realize you have no crystal ball (at least none that you'd admit to ) but what do you expect?
                  Nordyke isn't about carry but it is about scrutiny. The panel we have is unlikely to treat us poorly...

                  -Gene
                  Gene Hoffman
                  Chairman, California Gun Rights Foundation

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                  • #99
                    hammer
                    Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 144

                    the more i've been reading about these rulings, starting with McDonald, to Heller, and now Nordyke. These are landmark cases!

                    People should look at these cases for its implications.

                    Look beyond your personal agenda. This is way beyond that. Along the way, personal agendas will be satisfied, but Wow! hats off to those who have spent their hard earned time on making this better for everybody.

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                    • NorCalAthlete
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 1799

                      Any updates?

                      Also, could anyone who's been involved in or has knowledge of the good cause statements that led to successful issues please PM me to discuss a few things (that should be in my favor) that I'd rather not put out on the public forum? Thanks.
                      Last edited by NorCalAthlete; 04-11-2011, 8:44 PM.
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                      • Henry47
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 922

                        so do I just go to the county sheriff's office, or do i need to visit my local police station first?

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                        • unusedusername
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 4124

                          As far as I know, San Mateo is currently in the "don't apply yet unless you have extra special good cause" stage.

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                          • CalBear
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 4279

                            Originally posted by unusedusername
                            As far as I know, San Mateo is currently in the "don't apply yet unless you have extra special good cause" stage.
                            Nordyke will probably dictate which way SM goes and probably some other counties as well. For right now, you'll need something above self defense for good cause -- like transporting large sums of money.

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                            • taperxz
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 19395

                              Originally posted by CalBear
                              Nordyke will probably dictate which way SM goes and probably some other counties as well. For right now, you'll need something above self defense for good cause -- like transporting large sums of money.
                              As Brandon would say "Don't forget Richards"

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                              • hoffmang
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 18448

                                Originally posted by Henry47
                                so do I just go to the county sheriff's office, or do i need to visit my local police station first?
                                You can go directly to the San Mateo County Sheriff. Ignore your local PD as they are incorrect about the law. SMSO has been educated on this point but it's a new item for them. If you have any issues, reach out and we will gently remind.

                                -Gene
                                Gene Hoffman
                                Chairman, California Gun Rights Foundation

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