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  • Gray Peterson
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2005
    • 5817

    San Mateo

    UPDATE (2104 April 19):

    It appears SMSO will accept & hold CCW apps w/mere "self-defense" as Good Cause pending finalization of Peruta. See posts 438, 441, 458, and 480.

    Best to get an app in ASAP to get in line before the SO gets flooded w/thousands of applicants after the finalization.

    Of course, if you have "heightened" good cause (i.e., you have reasons backed by evidence as to why you would be more likely than the average person to be attacked), you should note that and you MAY get issued a CCW regardless of the outcome in Peruta. Be sure to ask them to hold your app pending the finalization of Peruta if you won't qualify even with your elevated good cause.

    End of Update.

    *****

    Anyone who gets denied in San Mateo Co and wants to fight it should read the following quote from my ("Paladin") post in the Monterey Co thread. (There they accept SD as GC, but push the GMC requirement.) The 14th Amendment Equal Protection applies to ALL aspects of the application process, not just GC and GMC.

    Originally posted by Paladin
    So, they say SD = GC, but then push GMC through the roof and, it appears, make your RKBA subject to your neighbors', co-workers' and friends' ratification....

    If Bernal does NOT follow this same procedure with ALL CCW applicants (think political donors, "friends of the sheriff"/"posse" members, politicians, celebrities), he's open for a Guillory-type 14th A Equal Protection federal lawsuit, but for GMC rather than GC.

    Hypothetically, let's say there's a world-famous film star (and director) who lives in (and was once the mayor of) Carmel-By-The-Sea, a city which, acc to CGF's 2013 survey, does not issue CCWs. We'll call him "Mr. E." Let's suppose Mr. E has a Monterey SO CCW. When it is/was time to renew, if the sheriff has the same policy for renewals that means his "background investigator" would have to go to Mr. E's neighbors (who, unlike his friends, may be hard-core antis), and "ask them if they would recommend [Mr. E] be issued a CCW permit." Not only would the same procedure have to be followed, but the same standard as to judging whether to issue or not be followed. IOW, let's say 1 of your neighbors says "Nyet!" when asked if you should get a CCW and because of that you are denied. If 1 of Mr. E's neighbors also said "No!" and yet was issued, that too is a 14th A Equal Protection violation.
    *****

    SM Co has a weird (i.e., illegal) policy of requiring all incorporated cities to accept apps, run the background checks and make a determination re. issuance, and then forward the app file to the sheriff who makes the ultimate decision on whether to issue the CCW or not. You can read about it on the SMPD's website at: http://www.cityofsanmateo.org/index.aspx?NID=665

    Application process:
    San Mateo County has developed a uniform application form for use throughout the various policing jurisdictions within the county. This application must be completed and submitted, along with the fee for service. The application must include a written explanation regarding the need to carry a concealed weapon.

    The application will be reviewed during a personal interview with Support Services' staff at the time of submittal. Following the interview, an appointment for fingerprint submission will be obtained. An additional fee will be collected by the technician to pay for the processing of the print cards by the State of California, as part of the background investigation. This may take 6 to 8 weeks to process.

    Upon determination that the issuance of a CCW permit is in order, the Chief of Police will forward a recommendation to issue the permit to the San Mateo Sheriff's Office, along with copies of the application and background investigation. The Sheriff's Office will continue the processing of the permit for issuance, and impose any clearly stated (if any) restrictions and/or condition the Chief has determined regarding the carrying of a concealed weapon. Reasonable limitations and restrictions imposed on an individual's CCW permit affect the time, place, and other restrictions under which the permittee may carry a concealed weapon.
    Last edited by Paladin; 11-08-2015, 8:02 AM.
  • #2
    taperxz
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2010
    • 19395

    No info at all?????

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    • #3
      Gray Peterson
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2005
      • 5817

      Originally posted by taperxz
      No info at all?????
      We're still working on it. Have patience.

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      • #4
        taperxz
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2010
        • 19395

        Originally posted by Gray Peterson
        We're still working on it. Have patience.

        You guys are doing great. It does not surprise me the local sheriff is dragging his feet.

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        • #5
          Gray Peterson
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2005
          • 5817

          Originally posted by taperxz
          You guys are doing great. It does not surprise me the local sheriff is dragging his feet.
          I would say that the person who I'm dealing with is not dragging feet. Wish I can say more, but it's being worked on. Stand by, everyone.

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          • #6
            dantodd
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2009
            • 9360

            The anticipation is killing me.
            Coyote Point Armory
            341 Beach Road
            Burlingame CA 94010
            650-315-2210
            http://CoyotePointArmory.com

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            • #7
              hoffmang
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2006
              • 18448



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              • #8
                Python2
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 906

                Originally posted by hoffmang


                -Gene
                Just say the word when I should be moving back to SM
                Last edited by Python2; 11-12-2010, 12:46 PM.
                Pinoy Bwana

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                • #9
                  CalBear
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 4279

                  I'm eagerly awaiting some info on this. I shall become a San Mateo sponsor soon.

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                  • #10
                    norcalblacktail
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2

                    Thanks for working on this.

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                    • #11
                      SouthScoRyda14
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 4

                      any word on getting a ccw in san mateo county? i've had a ccw from out of state for 5 years now, anyone know if that will help me at all

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                      • #12
                        hoffmang
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 18448

                        Stay close for more news in...



                        But seriously, soon.

                        -Gene
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                        Chairman, California Gun Rights Foundation

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                        • #13
                          Paladin
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 12392

                          Originally posted by hoffmang
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                          But seriously, soon.

                          -Gene
                          Still nothing that I could find on their website re CCWs (http://www.co.sanmateo.ca.us/portal/site/sheriffs/). Went thru it and, IMO, the most likely place they would post it is under the Records Bureau.
                          240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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                          • #14
                            SpacemanSpiff
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 21

                            subscribing

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                            • #15
                              wildhawker
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14150

                              Originally posted by Paladin
                              Still nothing that I could find on their website re CCWs (http://www.co.sanmateo.ca.us/portal/site/sheriffs/). Went thru it and, IMO, the most likely place they would post it is under the Records Bureau.
                              I'm not sure they will be the ones posting info...
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