San Diego CCW

[guardcompany]

I am not a 3% at all, don't own any punisher stickers and havnt applied for a CCW. Most I have done is look into the process and ask some questions about it.

All I was doing here was pointing out your ridiculousness. How eager you are to show someone being ungrateful for having their rights taken away and then sold back watered down. They have every right in the world to be annoyed.

How dare you come on here and insult this entire forum with your BS.

Insult this entire forum by telling people to not be annoying to the clerks? That actually somewhat makes sense for this forum.

Since you haven't applied because you are a non boot licking free American, let me share something with you... Currently (subject to change) after your 2nd appointment they tell you it is going to be 60-90 days but more so towards the 90 day limit. You don't need to follow up, you will get a letter in the mail one way or the other. So what good does someone getting annoying and asking why background is taking so long at day 70? The user above was told the situation months prior, how it was it a surprise it was taking that long? Everything I just said is already in this thread!? It hurts my head, do you do this at the DMV too?

I completely believe the entire process of asking for a right we should already have is difficult to deal with and I'm actually on your side 100%. The difference? I've been around this industry and county for along time. I encourage people to be professional and mature to the Sheriff's Office. I don't go around calling people boot lickers because they are pushing people to be professional to the clerks (aka don't call in the time window). Your voice shouldn't be for the clerks it should be used to help San Diego County Gun Owners and/or volunteering for Dave Myers. That is how change has and will happen.

[ECG_88]

Insult this entire forum by telling people to not be annoying to the clerks? That actually somewhat makes sense for this forum.

No, I meant you are insulting this entire forum when you mention Calguns in the same breath as when you are disparaging this guy for expressing his annoyance. Or later when you mention "3penisers" and "So because you were annoying to the clerk you are now not a boot licker? I love cal guns."

Since you haven't applied because you are a non boot licking free American, let me share something with you... Currently (subject to change) after your 2nd appointment they tell you it is going to be 60-90 days but more so towards the 90 day limit. You don't need to follow up, you will get a letter in the mail one way or the other. So what good does someone getting annoying and asking why background is taking so long at day 70? The user above was told the situation months prior, how it was it a surprise it was taking that long? Everything I just said is already in this thread!? It hurts my head, do you do this at the DMV too?

I am sorry, but are clerks not also acting in sort of a customer service capacity? Are they not there to answer questions about the process and status of applications? Im so sorry that they are annoyed about having to do their job. Its like someone in retail putting clothes away getting annoyed that someone is asking about another size shirt in stock... if only that person would stop bothering employees and let them get shirts on the rack.
Jeez that is their freaking job to help customers. If they are getting complaints from the clientele then maybe that should be relayed to their bosses so that changes can be made to make the customers happier. If they don't like their job, they can find another one.

The Clerks are pretty much the public portals to the whole process behind the scenes. Information is relayed by them even if they have no part in the decision making process. And it is not like people are harassing the clerks with death threats. It is just inquiries about the status. If the process takes longer than 60 days, maybe they should make that clear at the beginning, not that the process should take longer than a week. It is obvious that this is all purposefully drawn out because the sheriff doesn't care about making it more efficient.

If anyone is not being professional, it is the clerks and the Sheriff who think they don't work for a PUBLIC GOVERNMENT OFFICE and are SERVING the people.

I completely believe the entire process of asking for a right we should already have is difficult to deal with and I'm actually on your side 100%. The difference? I've been around this industry and county for along time. I encourage people to be professional and mature to the Sheriff's Office. I don't go around calling people boot lickers because they are pushing people to be professional to the clerks (aka don't call in the time window). Your voice shouldn't be for the clerks it should be used to help San Diego County Gun Owners and/or volunteering for Dave Myers. That is how change has and will happen.

I seriously do believe you and appreciate that we are on the same side. However I believe it is possible to be professional and mature while still being upset about the process. I also believe that making an inquiry should be allowed no matter how the clerk feels about it. Too bad for the clerk. I don't believe people are being rude, they are just trying to keep the department accountable to the expected timelines.

If my boss asked me to get something done by the end of the week and then he checked on it around Thursday to see how it was going, I wouldn't mind. I would tell him the status so that he knows I am working on it and that it will be done when I said it would be done. Because what if I totally forgot about it or lost the work? He would come on Friday expecting the finished report and find out that nothing was done and he would have to wait another week. That is unacceptable and especially when it comes to public services. We have heard too many stories about people's applications dropped, lost, reshuffled to the bottom of the stack. It is all unacceptable and Gov employees especially should be held accountable.

[guardcompany]

No, I meant you are insulting this entire forum when you mention Calguns in the same breath as when you are disparaging this guy for expressing his annoyance. Or later when you mention "3penisers" and "So because you were annoying to the clerk you are now not a boot licker? I love cal guns."




I am sorry, but are clerks not also acting in sort of a customer service capacity? Are they not there to answer questions about the process and status of applications? Im so sorry that they are annoyed about having to do their job. Its like someone in retail putting clothes away getting annoyed that someone is asking about another size shirt in stock... if only that person would stop bothering employees and let them get shirts on the rack.
Jeez that is their freaking job to help customers. If they are getting complaints from the clientele then maybe that should be relayed to their bosses so that changes can be made to make the customers happier. If they don't like their job, they can find another one.

The Clerks are pretty much the public portals to the whole process behind the scenes. Information is relayed by them even if they have no part in the decision making process. And it is not like people are harassing the clerks with death threats. It is just inquiries about the status. If the process takes longer than 60 days, maybe they should make that clear at the beginning, not that the process should take longer than a week. It is obvious that this is all purposefully drawn out because the sheriff doesn't care about making it more efficient.

If anyone is not being professional, it is the clerks and the Sheriff who think they don't work for a PUBLIC GOVERNMENT OFFICE and are SERVING the people.



I seriously do believe you and appreciate that we are on the same side. However I believe it is possible to be professional and mature while still being upset about the process. I also believe that making an inquiry should be allowed no matter how the clerk feels about it. Too bad for the clerk. I don't believe people are being rude, they are just trying to keep the department accountable to the expected timelines.

If my boss asked me to get something done by the end of the week and then he checked on it around Thursday to see how it was going, I wouldn't mind. I would tell him the status so that he knows I am working on it and that it will be done when I said it would be done. Because what if I totally forgot about it or lost the work? He would come on Friday expecting the finished report and find out that nothing was done and he would have to wait another week. That is unacceptable and especially when it comes to public services. We have heard too many stories about people's applications dropped, lost, reshuffled to the bottom of the stack. It is all unacceptable and Gov employees especially should be held accountable.

I think my sarcasm isn't coming off correctly. Calguns is entertainment for some of us.

I'll duck out and leave this thread to real information about the San Diego CCW process. But I'll just say if someone tells me 60-90 days for something and I call at day 70 and ask why its taking so long, I would frankly just feel stupid.

[CessnaDriver]

What is the live fire criteria by the way for class?
I assume you must bring all firearms listed and demonstrate with all three?

[Paladin]

Sweet I just got my approval letter.

Congrats!!!



Two questions: (1) Are you a friend of Sheriff Gore's, either personal or professional? (2) How much money have you ever donated to a Gore election campaign? I ask these 2 questions since some folks in SD Co still believe those are 2 requirements before getting issued a CCW from Gore.

No, I meant you are insulting this entire forum when you mention Calguns in the same breath as when you are disparaging this guy for expressing his annoyance. Or later when you mention "3penisers" and "So because you were annoying to the clerk you are now not a boot licker? I love cal guns."




I am sorry, but are clerks not also acting in sort of a customer service capacity? Are they not there to answer questions about the process and status of applications? Im so sorry that they are annoyed about having to do their job. Its like someone in retail putting clothes away getting annoyed that someone is asking about another size shirt in stock... if only that person would stop bothering employees and let them get shirts on the rack.
Jeez that is their freaking job to help customers. If they are getting complaints from the clientele then maybe that should be relayed to their bosses so that changes can be made to make the customers happier. If they don't like their job, they can find another one.

The Clerks are pretty much the public portals to the whole process behind the scenes. Information is relayed by them even if they have no part in the decision making process. And it is not like people are harassing the clerks with death threats. It is just inquiries about the status. If the process takes longer than 60 days, maybe they should make that clear at the beginning, not that the process should take longer than a week. It is obvious that this is all purposefully drawn out because the sheriff doesn't care about making it more efficient.

If anyone is not being professional, it is the clerks and the Sheriff who think they don't work for a PUBLIC GOVERNMENT OFFICE and are SERVING the people.



I seriously do believe you and appreciate that we are on the same side. However I believe it is possible to be professional and mature while still being upset about the process. I also believe that making an inquiry should be allowed no matter how the clerk feels about it. Too bad for the clerk. I don't believe people are being rude, they are just trying to keep the department accountable to the expected timelines.

If my boss asked me to get something done by the end of the week and then he checked on it around Thursday to see how it was going, I wouldn't mind. I would tell him the status so that he knows I am working on it and that it will be done when I said it would be done. Because what if I totally forgot about it or lost the work? He would come on Friday expecting the finished report and find out that nothing was done and he would have to wait another week. That is unacceptable and especially when it comes to public services. We have heard too many stories about people's applications dropped, lost, reshuffled to the bottom of the stack. It is all unacceptable and Gov employees especially should be held accountable.

But I'll just say if someone tells me 60-90 days for something and I call at day 70 and ask why its taking so long, I would frankly just feel stupid.

No, no: keep interrupting them since that will help them process applications faster.... Not only that, it will give them a good impression of CCW applicants, so that they'll encourage the sheriff to issue more and more CCWs, you know, so that they get further behind in processing them and more and more people keep interrupting them. I'm sure if you try to see it from their perspective, you'll agree.

/sarcasm

[Paladin]

Wow. That number 1422 (as of the date this post) is lower than I thought the total number of CCW issued was before the recent about face.

It would have been interesting to know what it was before last November.

It said "1492" as of yesterday! A 5% increase -- 70 CCWs -- in 1 month!
https://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html

If this keeps up (70 every 4 weeks at the low end, 5% increase every 4 weeks at the high end), that means we'll be at 1,562 to 1,567 ~June 25th. SDSO should break 2,000 by the end of the year.

To put all this in context, OC, which is has almost the same population size and very similar demographics, expects to break 20,000 CCWers in 2019. But Hutchens has been readily issuing CCWs for several years. Hopefully, SDSO will switch to online applications, esp for renewals which can be handled all online, to increase the rate of processing initial apps.

IMO, just as important is we haven't heard of more people being discouraged from applying/continuing their application, or being denied because of insufficient GC.

[guardcompany]

It said "1492" as of yesterday! A 5% increase -- 70 CCWs -- in 1 month!
https://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html

If this keeps up (70 every 4 weeks at the low end, 5% increase every 4 weeks at the high end), that means we'll be at 1,562 to 1,567 ~June 25th. SDSO should break 2,000 by the end of the year.

To put all this in context, OC, which is has almost the same population size and very similar demographics, expects to break 20,000 CCWers in 2019. But Hutchens has been readily issuing CCWs for several years. Hopefully, SDSO will switch to online applications, esp for renewals which can be handled all online, to increase the rate of processing initial apps.

IMO, just as important is we haven't heard of more people being discouraged from applying/continuing their application, or being denied because of insufficient GC.

All great news. Also I just heard as of today they are booking into August for the 1st interview.

[rugershooter]

It said "1492" as of yesterday! A 5% increase -- 70 CCWs -- in 1 month!
https://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html

If this keeps up (70 every 4 weeks at the low end, 5% increase every 4 weeks at the high end), that means we'll be at 1,562 to 1,567 ~June 25th. SDSO should break 2,000 by the end of the year.

To put all this in context, OC, which is has almost the same population size and very similar demographics, expects to break 20,000 CCWers in 2019. But Hutchens has been readily issuing CCWs for several years. Hopefully, SDSO will switch to online applications, esp for renewals which can be handled all online, to increase the rate of processing initial apps.

IMO, just as important is we haven't heard of more people being discouraged from applying/continuing their application, or being denied because of insufficient GC.

If I'm not mistaken, they've even changed the GC examples/requirements on the website.

Evidence that there has been or is likely to be an attempt on the part of a second party to do great bodily harm to the applicant

Someone tried carjacking me at knife point in early 2015. I applied for my LTC shortly after that on similar GC as above and got denied. It's been a while since I looked back into it, but I don't remember seeing this type of GC as being acceptable. It's great to actually see some progress.

[Paladin]

If I'm not mistaken, they've even changed the GC examples/requirements on the website.

If you're talking "changed" since early 2015, yeah. If you're talking changed since Jan 1st of this year, I doubt it.

Someone tried carjacking me at knife point in early 2015. I applied for my LTC shortly after that on similar GC as above and got denied. It's been a while since I looked back into it, but I don't remember seeing this type of GC as being acceptable. It's great to actually see some progress.

So.... Are you going to reapply now?

All the cool kids are getting issued!

[rugershooter]

If you're talking "changed" since early 2015, yeah. If you're talking changed since Jan 1st of this year, I doubt it.

So.... Are you going to reapply now?

All the cool kids are getting issued!

Yeah, I'm talking about from 2015. I never looked back into getting it since 2015 when it was denied.
I'm in Texas now, so I don't need it

[marcusrn]

Young people have no since of history. It's ironic that young people have smart phone devices that one can get instant quotes from Homer or access to arcane libraries and yet they use them to see what Rosie O Donnell and Kim Kardasian are doing."O tempora o mores".
Yes it's true we have no rights without responsibilities. It would be nice to move to a constitutional carry state but my wife won't go and I'd have to get divorced to swing it. Many have carried concealed without onerous paperwork and nobody knows they carry. It's a misdemeanor if charged. The remarkable thing is that if you want a CCW in San Diego you can get it now without having to grease anyones palms. I have dealt with the Licensing Division since 1994 and they are more pro CCW now than in the past 25 yrs. If you are going to be rude or pissed off please leave the staff at the Sheriffs office alone. They are just people doing a job and if you don't like the fact that Sheriff Gore wasted hundreds of thousands of NRA funds then vote against this RINO next week. Otherwise nobody cares. None of us have to live in California and as I said I'm embarrassed about my own situation.

[drjeffles]

Do you have to be a CA resident? I'm military and would like to apply for CCW, but thought since I was not a CA resident, I wouldn't qualify.

[MajorCaliber]

I believe that military orders stationing you in CA will qualify you as a resident of whatever county you are in for that purpose.

[Paladin]

Yeah, I'm talking about from 2015. I never looked back into getting it since 2015 when it was denied.
I'm in Texas now, so I don't need it

But you still need a "permission slip" by the Texas state government to OC or CC....





I hope you're politically active in TX re. your RKBA protected by the 2nd A. Gunnies in TX are hoping to pass Constitutional Carry next year. Make sure your friends, family, church friends, and shooting buddies all know about it and will push for it. It failed last year and didn't even come up this legislative season....

[baggss]

Do you have to be a CA resident? I'm military and would like to apply for CCW, but thought since I was not a CA resident, I wouldn't qualify.

Yes, you must be a CA resident....