UPDATE: TUES. 9/17/2024 - SERVER REPAIRS ARE & HAVE BEEN IN PROGRESS!!

[The Gleam]

Nah. Have been getting '504 Gateway Time Out several times just trying to load the main page between this afternoon and now.

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[TrappedinCalifornia]

Nah. Have been getting '504 Gateway Time Out several times just trying to load the main page between this afternoon and now.

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Whereas I haven't had too much trouble (though there has been some with the Gateway errors) today; but, was effectively locked out virtually all of last night.

As I said, the diversity and disparities in experiences are interesting; likely making it something difficult to target.

BTW: The homepage and the index pages are still experiencing severe lag times when it comes to updating.

[2shotjoe]

I got a couple of 504 Gateway Time Out errors last night.

[Kyle1886]

Whereas I haven't had too much trouble (though there has been some with the Gateway errors) today; but, was effectively locked out virtually all of last night.

As I said, the diversity and disparities in experiences are interesting; likely making it something difficult to target.

BTW: The homepage and the index pages are still experiencing severe lag times when it comes to updating.

I've noticed that also with members "signatures". Signatures don't post with the post but pop in later. Sort of like the software has to go find it and "cut and paste" to the post

Kyle

[sonofeugene]

It’s working reasonably well now, though not nearly as well as before the software upgrade.

and any forum software that doesn’t have a button for all recent posts is crap in my book.

[cranemech]

So, why is the forum having so many problems when the old software worked perfectly do me. I had no problems logging on , going from page to page, etc.

And PLEASE, someone tell me where the button is for showing all new posts since the last time I visited.

please?

IDK if it is what you are looking for, but there is a "latest activity" button on the top header, right above the "post reply" button.

[BluNorthern]

I'm able to login and it's functional....an improvement over what it has been on occasion.

[FluorideInMyWater]

server response time is 15ms from my machine, but there is frequent intermittent packet loss - last night 80-100%, today you have 504 gateway errors and a SQL database problem. posting and transitioning from page to page goes from 2 seconds to 3 minutes, all in a 10 minute test period. not sure why you didn't spin up an aws or azure sql server, migrate the data, and set it to auto-scale. would have taken less than a day and cost soooooooo much less.
you're going to have to find out where the bottle-neck is in this mess. your forward facing ip-addy is having issues......could be software related or hardware related, but start there (IMO),then see if the SQL problem goes away, if not............ :0

[Sgt Raven]

IDK what's going on, but take this sub-forum. National 2nd Amend. Political & Legal Discussion.
The thread list has not updated to a Il : GOS vs Rauoul post made on 9/20 and is still showing a post made on 9/18 as the last.
If you open that thread, the newer post is there. It's just the list is not showing it. So people wouldn't know there is a new post.
I know there was a problem in the old version of vB, but now its doing it here.

[moleculo]

IDK what's going on, but take this sub-forum. National 2nd Amend. Political & Legal Discussion.
The thread list has not updated to a Il : GOS vs Rauoul post made on 9/20 and is still showing a post made on 9/18 as the last.
If you open that thread, the newer post is there. It's just the list is not showing it. So people wouldn't know there is a new post.
I know there was a problem in the old version of vB, but now its doing it here.

Vbulletin has jobs that run how ever often you tell them to that reindexes the posts, and updates things like last post in a forum, last post by a user, post count, etc. If those jobs run too often, they can have a major impact on site performance. If they don't run often enough, then these functionalities cease to become useful. Most of the issues this site is experiencing is likely due to database performance. There are lots of ways to resolve this.

And the statement earlier that there are no conversions to Xenforo a database of this size is simply not true. There are pros that can and will do it for a fee. Some features such as the iTrader aren't compatible, though. This site is fixable, but it starts with dumping vBulletin. Much of the issues related to database bloat and related sucky performance are a direct result of choices that vBulletin made years ago which other premium forum software like Xenforo were aware of and chose differently.

[NorCalBusa]

I'm not seeing any improvement. Its random if pages will load or not, random to search and get a result, click on a forum or subforum and go make a pot of coffee. After (what's it been?) 6-weeks there's simply no "there" there. Maybe it will help to reduce traffic- so I'll take a week or two off the site, still hope the bug(s) are found and fixed.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

I've been unable to access the site for most of the last 24 hours. I couldn't even seem to be able to make a connection, just endless... nothing. There were 2 or 3 times I could get to the site, I could log in, but would only get 2 - 5 clicks and back to the 504 errors.

I did make one connection which allowed for creating a couple of posts, but even that wasn't clean. I ended up with a double post because it would "Working" me, then come back as if nothing happened and I couldn't get past the 504 errors in a 2nd tab.

It's easy to lose patience. If you look, you'll see the timing of one of my posts on .org, then you can look to see the same post on here. The difference in the timing represents the difference in my ability to access this site.

At least we can access and use the site... sort of. Whatever many think is a 'simple fix' has been misleading in that the 'simple fixes' which are pushed have now grown into a couple of dozen 'simple fixes.' At some point, whether they build on each other, are simply tips of a number of icebergs, or there is no, single 'root cause,' if you think it's frustrating as an user, think about being someone trying to fix it.

[command_liner]

I'm not seeing any improvement. Its random if pages will load or not, random to search and get a result, click on a forum or subforum and go make a pot of coffee. After (what's it been?) 6-weeks there's simply no "there" there. Maybe it will help to reduce traffic- so I'll take a week or two off the site, still hope the bug(s) are found and fixed.

Things are getting better. Slowly.
The invalid internal references are now gone. This helps with error/exception processing, which means speed and resource allocation (server-side context switches).
Better.
But there are still stupid bugs in the code that generates the HTML that is sent out. The Chrome Developer Tools show the faults, and reading the code I can see it is
a style issue, where the coder never checks for errors, and those errors turn into exceptions that are not caught. Buggy code makes for slow.

I have been pushing for zstd encoding, and stopping using gzip which is 6 years obsolete. An intermediate step would be to switch to brotli, and that is a trivial change.
No sign of that yet. Switching to brotli with max compression on static objects would probably reduce data volume by 25% or so. Since paging storms produce
exponential slowdowns, the overall throughput (user experience speed) might double. Not happening yet.

There are other resource problems.
When I re-load this page, the page data size is trivial but it takes 3.8 seconds to get it. That means it takes -- essentially forever -- for it to be generated. This is
almost certainly due to resource constraints on the server side. Either poor cache management, not enough TCP buffer, possibly swapping, possibly overcommit
resolution, or just not enough horsepower. Hard to say.

[SWalt]

^^^ Are you working on this site?

[LuckyGuy]

I just logged in and the site came up fast. For me it is working great with my Win 11 pro and latest Chrome. I am not an high end user, but I thank you I.T. guys for all you hard work and racking your brains. I know how it is working on these Darn computer issues. Good work to you all. P.S. I am still working in CP/M.