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  • Turner's Outdoorsman
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Jun 2011
    • 1674

    Originally posted by huntercf
    Why then was my ppt refused at the chino hills store mgr said corporate wouldn't let him do it for an ak pistol
    No good reason at all...

    PM sent.
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    • chknlyps2
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 2191

      Originally posted by Turner's Outdoorsman

      Now to the heart of the C&R issue. We are working with some very good folks (you all know these hard working guys) to get some things cleared up with regards to the exemptions and latitude that is extended to C&R licensees. We hear one thing from one regulatory entity and something a bit different from another. Under the advisement of the folks who are doing some work on this, we won't be commenting further until we hear back from them. But do know that we want to have C&R folks maximize the amount of utility that their license affords them. It's best for them and absolutely it's best for all dealers.
      I am wondering if there is any news on you guys doing the C&R + COE exemption for the one hand gun in 30 day rule like other dealers are doing? Here is the Calguns thread about it http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=449449 with an explnation (post 103) on how to pick the right exemption on the drop down menu of the DROS screen so it does not get rejected. Post 103 was written by tenpercentfirearms who is a Calguns Foundation Board Member. Other 01 FFL's are giving the thumbs up for this being correct as well as the Chairman of the Calguns Foundation who I believe is a attorney (hoffmang)
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      • Turner's Outdoorsman
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Jun 2011
        • 1674

        Originally posted by chknlyps2
        I am wondering if there is any news on you guys doing the C&R + COE exemption for the one hand gun in 30 day rule like other dealers are doing? Here is the Calguns thread about it http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=449449 with an explnation (post 103) on how to pick the right exemption on the drop down menu of the DROS screen so it does not get rejected. Post 103 was written by tenpercentfirearms who is a Calguns Foundation Board Member. Other 01 FFL's are giving the thumbs up for this being correct as well as the Chairman of the Calguns Foundation who I believe is a attorney (hoffmang)
        We do not have yet received an answer to the question(s) that we tendered through the folks that are helping us out. When we do, we post in this forum.
        PM sent, too.
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        • Cokebottle
          Señor Member
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2009
          • 32373

          Originally posted by Turner's Outdoorsman
          We do not have yet received an answer to the question(s) that we tendered through the folks that are helping us out. When we do, we post in this forum.
          PM sent, too.
          The answer to the question is in the California Penal Code...
          12072(a)(9)(A) No person shall make an application to purchase more than one handgun within any 30-day period.
          (B) Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to any of the following:
          (ix) Any person who is licensed as a collector pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued to him or her by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 12071.
          And I found the source of the FUD that has dealers claiming that this applies only to C&R purchases:


          Any person who is a licensed collector pursuant to Chapter 44 of Title 18 of the United States Code and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued to him or her by the Department of Justice pursuant to PC 12071 (curio and relic firearms only).
          Gotta love Bill's underground regulations.
          - Rich

          Originally posted by dantodd
          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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          • Clownpuncher
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 1176

            Originally posted by blazeaglory
            Yeah OK why dont we just say "it is what it is" about ever problem then?

            Great way to solve a problem buddy.
            Really? You're really comparing this to "every problem"?

            This store is nice enough to provide representation on this forum, provide timely feedback to its customers, and generally from what I have seen, takes care of them better than most businesses of their size.

            The $5 charge has been discussed ad naseum both in this thread as well as several others where links were provided. I'm relatively new to the forum and even I can find it.

            Continuously wanking about the fee does nothing but show your limited mental capacity to comprehend what has already been said and explained several times, therefore, it is what it is.

            If it bothers you that much, go somewhere else. Chances are when you do have a problem you won't find the customer service that Turners provides. Of course you can always buy online and save a few bucks, but then you would have to pay shipping and would have no limit on the FFL fee. Or you could drive around town looking for the best deal, wasting more than the $5 you are complaining about.

            To me, $5 isn't that big of a deal to support a local store who takes an active interest in the community and takes care of their customers. Maybe if there were more businesses like that and more people who thought like that there would be fewer wal marts and other big box stores with the service of a morgue.
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            • Turner's Outdoorsman
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Jun 2011
              • 1674

              Originally posted by Cokebottle
              The answer to the question is in the California Penal Code...


              And I found the source of the FUD that has dealers claiming that this applies only to C&R purchases:



              Gotta love Bill's underground regulations.
              Agreed, there are a lot of similar "regulations" or "best practices" that were constructed during the tenure of certain folks at various levels; a lot of which did not go through the proper statutory process.

              PM sent.
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              Oxnard | Pasadena | Rancho Cucamonga | Reseda
              San Bernardino | San Marcos | Signal Hill
              Temecula | Torrance | Victorville | West Covina

              Salinas (NOW OPEN)
              Palmdale (NOW OPEN)
              Fresno (Opening 2018)

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              • JaMail
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 1897

                +1 for pete at the signal hill store.. great guy and always goes out of his way to help me when i come in.

                fastest PPT ive ever seen in my life, did one for me in about 20 minutes.
                Jason M- My 5 year old is a NRA life member, are you?

                WTB: Stoeger Condor Competition Combo (I'll trade 1911's or other handguns)

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                • SideWinder11
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1324

                  I just want to say I think a store in Ventura County would be a gold mine for you.

                  Please consider us for one.

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                  • kalaca
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 63

                    Originally posted by Turner's Outdoorsman
                    Temecula is on the definitely on the short list of new locations as we look at new store openings in early 2012. PM sent.
                    That would be the best spot its between kerney mesa and corona and that city is huge and the cities around are growing fast!!

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                    • LBDamned
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 19040

                      Thanks Norwalk!

                      Kudos to Norwalk store!!!

                      Went in to get some PMC .223 that was in today's "Off the Hook Special" - one day only email add... but I got there a little late in the day (4:00-ish) and they only had four boxes left (I wanted 10, which is maximum per person purchase)...

                      I started to call FV and SH stores to see if they had any in stock, and clerk realized my predicament and offered some Remington that they had plenty of for same sale price! Manager did price-adjustment = hassle-free and out the door swiftly!

                      I love it when it happens like that
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                      • Delta-9
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 52

                        Originally posted by Clownpuncher

                        To me, $5 isn't that big of a deal to support a local store who takes an active interest in the community and takes care of their customers.
                        I'm already supporting the store by purchasing something, why should I be forced to support them with an extra $5. Would you like to pay an extra $5 at every store you shop at just because you like them?

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                        • Boris
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 83

                          Originally posted by Delta-9
                          I'm already supporting the store by purchasing something, why should I be forced to support them with an extra $5. Would you like to pay an extra $5 at every store you shop at just because you like them?
                          Good point! As a powerful community we should band together and boycott all businesses and organizations that charge fees on top of their basic service charges. I think I'll start by cancelling my Costco membership. $35 a year so I can spend good money on pallets of burritos, duct tape and toilet paper just doesn't seem fair. And after checking out the BS fees on my utility bills I'm cancelling all of them too. And I don't think I'll be buying gasoline here anymore either. I'll order it online from some guy in Oklahoma who lives in his mom's basement and save the state taxes and AQMD and CARB fees. That'll show em...

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                          • LBDamned
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 19040

                            I think many of you are missing the point of the $5 fee question... its not a matter of being too much or unwarranted - people are asking for an explanation.

                            Too many people in this thread are implying "shut up and pay it"... that's not acceptable to most logical right-minded individuals. Many of the examples being given are not comparable - a tax is explained, a membership fee is explained... the $5 handling fee is ambiguous - and people are justified in wanting clarification..

                            If you don't mind paying fees without explanation - you are sheep and part of the problem in this state/country.
                            "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                            • Clownpuncher
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 1176

                              Originally posted by LBDamned
                              I think many of you are missing the point of the $5 fee question... its not a matter of being too much or unwarranted - people are asking for an explanation..
                              Fair enough. I wasn't implying you shut up and pay it, simply saying that if you would go back to the thread that has been linked to several times in this thread you would probably find your answer.


                              Originally posted by LBDamned
                              you are sheep and part of the problem in this state/country.
                              Wow... drama much?
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                              • LBDamned
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 19040

                                Originally posted by Clownpuncher



                                Wow... drama much?
                                it's not drama... it's simply my opinion (and the opinion of many others) that we pay way to many "fees" that are unexplained... and unfortunately far too many people (particularly in CA) never question it; it has resulted in problems, problems that could be avoided if more people stop being sheep and wake up.

                                This is going off topic in regards to Turners - the subject is one thing, but I agree it isnt an isolated "Turners" issue - however, the reason people question the Turners fee is justified the same way.
                                "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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