Question for FFL's...

[NineSixteen]

Given the date (late December) and if the gun will not qualify as a roster exempt transfer next year, I would see if the dealer will allow you to sell it on Calguns and let the new person take over.

It is possible it was a case of mistaken identity, but the DOJ can take a while to get back to you and if you are not able to DROS the gun in 2015, I would try to sell it and cut your loses now.

Maybe have the new person sign a document that says they did not know you before, etc so the FFL has some evidence it was not a straw purchase. Or only sell to someone in a different part of the state so it has to be shipped (more evidence of not a straw purchase)

Again, you will need to speak with your FFL. Maybe in person is better.

I would start a two pronged attack. Try to get it resolved with the DOJ, but also assume it will not be resolved by Jan 1, so have a plan B in place.

Thank you, I am realizing now there is no way to correct the issue before the 1st so am going to do my best to find someone to either buy it out from the dealer or contact the place I bought it from, explain the situation and try to get it returned. In that case I will only be loosing the tax, shipping, transfer, and dros fee which is much more preferable to the whole price.

[kemasa]

The sales tax should be refunded.

[CaliforniaAr45]

Loosing money due to purchase before DROS results?

From http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#15

"My firearm purchase was denied by the DOJ and the dealer won't tell me why. How do I find out the reason for the denial?
If your DROS application is denied, you will receive a letter from the DOJ Bureau of Firearms within two weeks. The letter will explain the reason and instructions on how to get a copy of the record that resulted in the denial of your application. There will also be instructions on how to dispute and correct information in your record you believe is wrong

To eliminate this potential problem I wonder why the DROS isn't submitted before the purchase?

[Librarian]

From http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#15

"My firearm purchase was denied by the DOJ and the dealer won't tell me why. How do I find out the reason for the denial?
If your DROS application is denied, you will receive a letter from the DOJ Bureau of Firearms within two weeks. The letter will explain the reason and instructions on how to get a copy of the record that resulted in the denial of your application. There will also be instructions on how to dispute and correct information in your record you believe is wrong

To eliminate this potential problem I wonder why the DROS isn't submitted before the purchase?

Because DROS stands for Dealer's Record Of Sale.

[CaliforniaAr45]

Because DROS stands for Dealer's Record Of Sale.

I understand that but couldn't, in this case, the Internet seller perform the DROS since he was the actual seller, not the transfer agent. No, that won't work either because I think you have to show ID. SMH There has got to be a way of eliminating the risk of loosing the cost of the weapon.

Can the Handgun Safety Certificate serve as a pre-DROS?

Shouldn't Internet purchases have a Dealers Record Of Intent To Sell

Is there only a delay in a refund of the weapon's purchase price or do many buyers actually loose all their money?
Small claims? Reseller ratings? Yelp?

[kemasa]

In most cases the person knows that they are prohibited (or should). If there is a mistake, then it should get corrected. Some might not realize that they are prohibited, but that is rare. Restraining orders can cause a person to be prohibited, as well as a medical marijuana card (although I don't think that is automatic in the system).

If there is some question, the buyer can submit the personal certificate of eligibility form.

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/pfecapp.pdf

[CaliforniaAr45]

In most cases the person knows that they are prohibited (or should). If there is a mistake, then it should get corrected. Some might not realize that they are prohibited, but that is rare. Restraining orders can cause a person to be prohibited, as well as a medical marijuana card (although I don't think that is automatic in the system).

If there is some question, the buyer can submit the personal certificate of eligibility form.

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/ag...ms/pfecapp.pdf

Whew! Thanks for restoring confidence in online gun purchases.