PPT Transfer Question

[GuyFawkes]

Having both parties present at the same time would also protect the store from accusations that they are selling firearms commercially as PPTs to avoid commercial requirements.

[crazy_frank]

Law says both parties must go to the same FFL, and that FFL will hold the gun for the 10 days.

Does anyone have any idea when this is changing given the orders to drop the 10 day wait?

[Librarian]

Does anyone have any idea when this is changing given the orders to drop the 10 day wait?

The 10-day wait is not eliminated for all sales.

IIRC, the AG has until sometime this Spring to implement a policy following the opinion of the Court.

[kemasa]

You might want to think about how the non-10 day wait might not work. If the FFL has to constantly check to see if the background check is done, then most likely in reality, nothing will change as they are not going to want customers constantly calling asking if it is done yet, nor are they going to want to constantly check to see if it is actually done. The current DES does not notify FFLs of bulletins or invoices by email, so I seriously doubt that the DOJ would add that feature.

[crazy_frank]

You might want to think about how the non-10 day wait might not work. If the FFL has to constantly check to see if the background check is done, then most likely in reality, nothing will change as they are not going to want customers constantly calling asking if it is done yet, nor are they going to want to constantly check to see if it is actually done. The current DES does not notify FFLs of bulletins or invoices by email, so I seriously doubt that the DOJ would add that feature.

Hypothetically speaking, what if documentation proving good character standing and no existing restrictions is provided? Should be pretty easy for them if someone provides either their CCW permit (and weapon on them at that time) or say something else of significance i.e. COE or C&R FFL? Just spitballing here

[kemasa]

Hypothetically speaking, what if documentation proving good character standing and no existing restrictions is provided? Should be pretty easy for them if someone provides either their CCW permit (and weapon on them at that time) or say something else of significance i.e. COE or C&R FFL? Just spitballing here

There are two issues. The first is the law and the second what is reasonable effort to expect on the part of the FFL. Due to the court case, if it is said that the firearm can be released when the background check is done, regardless of whether the person has a CCW or COE (which should result in no waiting period, but it doesn't), but that it requires the FFL to constantly check to see if the firearm can be released sometime between 5 minutes and 240 hours, what do you think the FFL is going to say?