Roster Exemption for Peace officers

[damjo]

I know Police Officers were exempt from the Roster. With all the recent laws that went into effect was this changed?

I am seeing that the system in requiring a letter now. Is this the case for the off roster exemption(s) now?

[Quiet]

There has been no changes in CA laws.

[damjo]

Thanks!

[Rogue187]

That information is incorrect..
There have been numerous changes in the Penal code..
Suggest you check.

[Quiet]

That information is incorrect..
There have been numerous changes in the Penal code..
Suggest you check.

None of which effects a LEOs ability to obtain a handgun not listed on Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.

LEO exemption = PC 32000(b)(4)




Penal Code 32000
(a) Commencing January 1, 2001, any person in this state who manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state for sale, keeps for sale, offers or exposes for sale, gives, or lends any unsafe handgun shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year.
(b) This section shall not apply to any of the following:
(1) The manufacture in this state, or importation into this state, of a prototype handgun when the manufacture or importation is for the sole purpose of allowing an independent laboratory certified by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 32010 to conduct an independent test to determine whether that handgun is prohibited by Sections 31900 to 32110, inclusive, and, if not, allowing the department to add the firearm to the roster of handguns that may be sold in this state pursuant to Section 32015.
(2) The importation or lending of a handgun by employees or authorized agents of entities determining whether the weapon is prohibited by this section.
(3) Firearms listed as curios or relics, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
(4) The sale or purchase of a handgun, if the handgun is sold to, or purchased by, the Department of Justice, a police department, a sheriff's official, a marshal's office, the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, the California Highway Patrol, any district attorney's office, any federal law enforcement agency, or the
military or naval forces of this state or of the United States for use in the discharge of their official duties. This section does not prohibit the sale to, or purchase by, sworn members of these agencies of a handgun.
(c) Violations of subdivision (a) are cumulative with respect to each handgun and shall not be construed as restricting the application of any other law. However, an act or omission punishable in different ways by this section and other provisions of law shall not be punished under more than one provision, but the penalty to be imposed shall be determined as set forth in Section 654.

[CifaldiPrecision]

Was there or was there not a change made by Kamala Harris on April 8th? See link below. The link below is the only place I've seen discuss this via google searching. I can't find anything anywhere else and I don't know how reliable the below source I since I've never used it before. But I would like to bring this up for clarification as I have a customer (NCIS agent) who wants to buy a gen 4 glock and she says she's been told no by a few FFLS already. They also told her no high cap mags for federal LEOs which i had previously confirmed was fine wight the ca doj. So I'm confused here.

http://www.calgunlaws.com/california-ag-to-feds-no-guns-for-you/

Brett C.
IronworksTactical.com - owner

[kemasa]

I thought that it was changed to allow the Feds to buy such firearms. I think it might have been sent out as a notice, but it was not recent.

[CifaldiPrecision]

Roster Exemption for Peace officers

As of January 1 it was changed and written into the PC above (see the section below with special attention to the last sentence, but was it changed again?

4) The sale or purchase of a handgun, if the handgun is sold to, or purchased by, the Department of Justice, a police department, a sheriff's official, a marshal's office, the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, the California Highway Patrol, any district attorney's office, any federal law enforcement agency, or the
military or naval forces of this state or of the United States for use in the discharge of their official duties. This section does not prohibit the sale to, or purchase by, sworn members of these agencies of a handgun.

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[ke6guj]

I know Police Officers were exempt from the Roster. With all the recent laws that went into effect was this changed?

I am seeing that the system in requiring a letter now. Is this the case for the off roster exemption(s) now?

I was told by my FFL that it is asking for the letter since it is automatically doing a 10-day exemption along with the roster exemption, and the 10-day exemption requires the letter. I dont know if he figured out a way to get it to a roster-exempt transfer to LEO without it also adding in the 10-day exemption as well.

[kemasa]

There are limits as to when the law can change, so I don't think that the law has changed and most likely that post was just put up recently and does not reflect current CA law.

You could confirm the CA PC has not changed.

[CifaldiPrecision]

I can't find any changes to the penal code. It still states the same thing. I haven't received any memos through ca doj regarding it either so I I think it's false.


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[Condorguns]

I was told by my FFL that it is asking for the letter since it is automatically doing a 10-day exemption along with the roster exemption, and the 10-day exemption requires the letter. I dont know if he figured out a way to get it to a roster-exempt transfer to LEO without it also adding in the 10-day exemption as well.

I noticed this too when doing a LEO the other day. He did have a letter for the 10 day. I thought before LEO could buy off list without a letter but had to wait the 10 days. Now they want a letter just to off list?

[CifaldiPrecision]

Roster Exemption for Peace officers

No that is a misinterpretation of the law and the instruction book for the DES. It states the letter in the DES handbook. No where in the law. That was discussed a lot after the new system launched.

Edit: discussed here. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a.../t-854261.html

Edit: one more source. Problem is no clue the date of this. http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/exemptpo

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[Condorguns]

Ah.. got it. All my LEO's come with letters to skip the 10 day, so I missed that thread. It just happened to catch my eye the other day. TY

[kemasa]

Of course there is a solution to all of this:

http://www.thepoliceloophole.com/