Protecting Personal Info in PPT transactions

[Mr357magnum]

I have a done a couple of PPT's over the past year in Southern California (wont name the area or the exact FFL).

On both occasions when the purchaser and I were given copies of the DROS form, our personal information wasn't blacked out, or whited out in any way. I was slightly shocked when this happened, because I do not want my personal information floating around out there at random peoples houses. Even if the info is blacked out with a sharpie, you can still see the letters and numbers by holding it up to the light. The best way to do it is to sharpie it out, and then copy that document, so its then impossible to see what is written.

I was told one time that dealers are required to protect the personal information of each person in the transaction. Is this true? Can someone point me in the direction of what law discusses that?

[CenterX]

I'm not an FFL.
But as far as I know the HIPPA stuff is the only personal information you have, less your SSN, which you must use for government related reasons - i.e taxes and healthcare.
Privacy is one of the things that the War For Independence was fought over - privacy acts in England keep your neighbors from knowing what you are up to and protect the government from the populace knowing who they are watching.
I've always gotten the full scoop on the PPT forms and that is fine with me. All of us can be found via the internet for a little money or by going to the county clerks office to look at property ownership records.
Relax......... We all used to be in the phone book!

[Mr357magnum]

Actually, it says right there in the penal code that they are supposed to. Check out this thread:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/archive/index.php/t-256279.html

And yea sure I bet my address could probably be found easily, but Id prefer it that my information was redacted.

[kemasa]

As said, it is in the CA PC and there is no choice, not even if the people are ok with it since the law states that the information has to be redacted.

[send it_hit]

yes, it must be redacted. luckily, even before i knew this was legally required, my LGS was blacking out the other party's info.

Even if it wasn't a legal thing, you'd think that be the common sense action to take.

[kemasa]

If there was any common sense, the DROS system would allow for the printout for the dealer, the buyer and the seller, rather than the dealer having to remove the information. Using a marker does not work since you can still read the information typically.

[acespawnshop]

Yes, Its annoying. We end up printing the DROS 3 times, ours, then seller and buyer. Each one gets blacked out and re-copied so info cant be read through the marker. That's 5 pages of paper for the deal. The 2 OG black ones get shredded. Go green California I guess????

[kemasa]

Well, if you print it once, scan it in, then black out the information and print it, revert the image back and then black out the other information, you can reduce the number of copies to 3, which is what you need. Also, you can save even more paper by not printing out the copies unless the person actually requests it.

It would be nice if the CA DOJ added this to the new version of the DROS system for 2014.