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  • 1A1
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 58

    Lock with PPT

    I did a PPT this weekend and the store told me I needed to buy a lock from them even though I, the buyer, has a safe and the seller brought a lock. Is this normally the case with PPTs?

    I thought that I could just sign a safe affidavit as I normally do with NEW firearms purchases.
  • #2
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44660

    That question is not about PPT, it's about the lock requirement.

    Please see the wiki article -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Bu...es.2C_and_Laws
    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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    • #3
      dat1callidude
      Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 241

      yea its bs some shops make you do it some don't.

      my advice buy one from walmart keep receipt and return after you pick up your gun.

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      • #4
        noahriot
        Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 106

        With a ppt I meet the seller in the parking lot and put a lock on the weapon as if its included with the sale/part of the package deal.

        Has worked for me on the 2 times I've done that without an issue.

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        • #5
          DuneShoot
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 1041

          I write the buyer a receipt for $1.00 and sign it. From what I understand the lock needs to be purchased within 30 days of the sale. Where or whom you buy it from is irrelevant.

          Buying with the intention of returning it to Walmart?

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          • #6
            dat1callidude
            Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 241

            Yes buy it and return it it works like a charm

            It's about the same as a 1$ receipt smart asssss

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            • #7
              SNCaliber
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 3222

              I am doing this for a gun Im picking up on Wednesday, bought a lock from Walmart and will return afterwards
              -Sang

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              • #8
                ptroxx
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 2259

                is this even for rifles and shotguns?

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                • #9
                  Librarian
                  Admin and Poltergeist
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 44660

                  Originally posted by ptroxx
                  is this even for rifles and shotguns?
                  Yes. CA law says some kind of firearms safety device is required for every gun sold through an FFL.

                  For long guns, however, the Safe Affidavit works, if you care to use it. It's just handguns that the Feds have made into a problem in this issue.
                  ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                  Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                  • #10
                    shakes88
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1128

                    I can't figure it out sometimes either, I usually to the Wal-Mart buy/return deal... But every store has a different policy it seems. I've had places that "forgot to let me know" and they tried to make me buy one in their store (didn't work) and I've had a store give me my gun in a brown paper bag...
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                    • #11
                      DuneShoot
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 1041

                      Buying something with the intention of returning it is not the same as selling someone a lock with a receipt private party.

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                      • #12
                        ptroxx
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 2259

                        Originally posted by Librarian
                        Yes. CA law says some kind of firearms safety device is required for every gun sold through an FFL.

                        For long guns, however, the Safe Affidavit works, if you care to use it. It's just handguns that the Feds have made into a problem in this issue.
                        This was a long gun PPT . And I confirmed I had a safe.. And I Was forced to buy the lock 10.95 I could have used for ammo...LOL
                        Last edited by ptroxx; 04-22-2013, 1:00 PM.

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                        • #13
                          SNCaliber
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 3222

                          yes, but either way works, the gun store sales employee actually suggested that I can buy a lock and return it afterwards
                          -Sang

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                          • #14
                            acespawnshop
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 2852

                            The safe affidavit only covers DOJ requirments not ATF. If the Feds say they want a gunlock with the sale then you have to do it. We sell CA approved gunlocks for $5, we also buy back CA approved gunlocks for $5. Wink wink get it..... Leave the store with your gun and gunlock sell the gunlock back for $5 if you dont want it. However, nost people have never cared about bringing it back.
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