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  • #16
    tenpercentfirearms
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Apr 2005
    • 13007

    Originally posted by cz74
    Let's say I ordered from Riflegear and transferred to my local FFL, if Riflegear did not collect this excise tax, my local FFL will need to collect it, right?
    Correct. What is most likely to happen is Riflegear will collect their share of the excise tax then your transfer dealer will then collect the rest on the transfer fee after you show that you paid Riflegear their part. Talk about a pain in the rear.

    Originally posted by big blaze
    If ammo I ordered from online doesn't show up to my local FFL till after July 1, will I have to pay the additional 11%?
    Yes. That sale is not complete until delivered for sure. Unless you want to go pre-pay and see if the dealer will risk taking on your tax burden plus interest and penalties for you. They probably won't get audited, but is it really worth it?
    www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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    • #17
      Eddy's Shooting Sports
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 1329

      [QUOTE=tenpercentfirearms;n54134558]

      Correct. What is most likely to happen is Riflegear will collect their share of the excise tax then your transfer dealer will then collect the rest on the transfer fee after you show that you paid Riflegear their part. Talk about a pain in the rear.

      This wasn't 100% defined during the webinar, but it seemed from what they were saying is that Rifle Gear would not have to pay the tax, because they are not transferring the firearm, hence they are not considered the retailer and the entire tax burden would be on the transferring dealer. In reality, I would expect it to play out exactly as you described with Rifle Gear paying it on their selling price and the transferring dealer paying it on the transfer fee. I doubt CDTFA will care as long as it is paid. In the long run, if CDTFA treats this tax like they do sales tax and you don't raise any red flags, they will likely just be happy collecting the tax and leave you alone. For fear of jinxing myself, I'm 13 years in without a BOE/CDTFA tax audit.....

      Greg David
      Eddy's Shooting Sports
      (650)969-GUNS

      400 Moffett Blvd., Suite F
      Mountain View, CA 94043

      www.eddysguns.com

      Tue-Fri 12-7, Sat 11-5

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      • #18
        Dante Alighieri
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2024
        • 1

        Interesting, a 11% tax to fund "community safety and education" while Newsom defunds police to the tune of 185 million.

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        • #19
          EA Firearms
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2024
          • 4

          Originally posted by big blaze
          If ammo I ordered from online doesn't show up to my local FFL till after July 1, will I have to pay the additional 11%?
          yes that is the case.

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          • #20
            big blaze
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 537

            Originally posted by big blaze
            If ammo I ordered from online doesn't show up to my local FFL till after July 1, will I have to pay the additional 11%?

            Originally posted by EA Firearms

            yes that is the case.
            Who do I owe the 11% excise tax too. The online out of state vendor I ordered the ammo from or my local FFL that's simply doing the background check and transfer? Also, will I have to provide my receipt so that my local FFL can determine how much the 11% excise will be?

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            • #21
              Librarian
              Admin and Poltergeist
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 44661

              Originally posted by big blaze
              Originally posted by big blaze

              Who do I owe the 11% excise tax too. The online out of state vendor I ordered the ammo from or my local FFL that's simply doing the background check and transfer? Also, will I have to provide my receipt so that my local FFL can determine how much the 11% excise will be?
              The tax is imposed by CA on the CA FFL. You don't pay it directly.
              ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

              Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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