New DROS Delay Process...

[wildhawker]

FFLs that care need to join here: www.calffl.org/join

Individuals need to use this reporting form: www.calgunsfoundation.org/doj

REPORT A PROBLEM WITH CALIFORNIA DEPT. OF JUSTICE (DOJ)

As a response to an increasing number of reports of apparently improper conduct on the part of the California Department of Justice towards those seeking to acquire firearms for self-defense - protected activity under the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution - The Calguns Foundation has established an incident and issue reporting form, accessible at http://calgunsfoundation.org/get-hel...rt-ca-doj.html.

The information collected will be used to track the type and number of incidents and, where necessary, allow us to contact those whose rights may have been violated or otherwise damaged by the DOJ.

All those with urgent firearms-related incidents, such as arrests or seizures of property, should continue to contact us through the Calguns Foundation Help Hotline at http://calgunsfoundation.org/get-help/help-hotline.html.

-Brandon

[halifax]

This policy change is this.Basically, ANYTHING on your record that has something to do with any kind of physical violence must have deposition or else there will be a delay. All they care about is making sure you have no record of domestic violence. If you have any offenses,Id recommend you have them expunged as soon as possible even if its something you did as a juvenile. ALSO, if you have state license issues, such as suspensions or revokes, your DROS will also be delayed. This policy affects alot of people because before there wasnt an issue and now it is. The real downside is if they do uncover something that prevents you from buying a firearm, it could also affect you being able to keep the ones you already have. i advise you make sure your records are clean and if not, hire a lawyer for further actions. Owning guns are an investment and Im sure we all want to protect it.

This is interesting. Now, non-prohibiting violations may become prohibiting ones!! How, and under what authority, did that happen?

You sound like an informed individual. Mind if I ask where this information is coming from?

[Santa Cruz Armory]

FFLs that care need to join here: www.calffl.org/join

-Brandon

As a FFL, I do "care". As much as we FFLs need a medium to collaborate and pool our resources, a $1000 a year membership fee is too much IMHO. Why can't this group be here on CG?

[wildhawker]

As much as us FFLs need a medium to collaborate and pool our resources, a $1000 a year membership fee is too much IMHO.

If you're doing $500k+ a year and can't commit $1k a year to defending your business and industry, then you have serious business model issues.

Freedom isn't free.

-Brandon

[wildhawker]

Why can't this group be here on CG?

Calguns is a web forum.

If you want to be taken seriously, then you have to bring something tangible to the table. Cal-FFL is an industry association that takes the issues seriously.

Anyone who thinks we're going to do business in California or win on the cheap is fooling themselves.

-Brandon

[Santa Cruz Armory]

If you're doing $500k+ a year and can't commit $1k a year to defending your business and industry, then you have serious business model issues.

Freedom isn't free.

-Brandon

Brandon, If I was doing $500k+ a year I wouldn't have made that comment. We're a small shop trying to get going. Do you have a micro FFL "starter pack" How many members does Cal-FFL currently have?

[wildhawker]

Brandon, If I was doing $500k+ a year I wouldn't have made that comment. We're a small shop trying to get going. Do you have a micro FFL "starter pack" How many members does Cal-FFL currently have?

Gotcha. See the below, the dues are only $250 for small FFLs. It's all based on the previous year's gross sales.

Cal-FFL's member directory is here: http://calffl.org/member-directory. We have 10 commercial members about 5 months in, without any real marketing. That's about to change, as our goal is to hit 100 commercial/FFL members by years' end.

-Brandon

[Santa Cruz Armory]

That's much more reasonable.

[wildhawker]

That's much more reasonable.

Trust me, a good handful of FFLs really spent some time thinking about how to make it work for - and be accessible to - all members of the FFL community.

Thank you for the feedback, and I hope to see you on the member roster soon!

-Brandon

[onebadwolf]

Delayed Dros

I am coming up on 90 days for my DROS delay. I have called DOJ several times and talked to the phone tech on 3 occasions. No Information was given to me but was told one time that if i didnt have a criminal record I wouldnt have this problem. DOJ phone message says that it can not give any information over the phone. But no in person visit is not offered. Seems like the system is flawed somewhere. Can anyone offer some help on this one?

[Zedrek]

I am coming up on 90 days for my DROS delay. I have called DOJ several times and talked to the phone tech on 3 occasions. No Information was given to me but was told one time that if i didnt have a criminal record I wouldnt have this problem. DOJ phone message says that it can not give any information over the phone. But no in person visit is not offered. Seems like the system is flawed somewhere. Can anyone offer some help on this one?

Check out this forum and email Jason Davis. Good luck and welcome to Calguns.

[Theycallmebruce]

i got 60 days into my delay and counting. but hell im not going to cancel my purchase . i had pick up a long gun with no problem the day i started this dros