What are the current lock requirements?

[tenpercentfirearms]

If the handgun in question has an internal lock, like S&W revolvers and H&K USP's, does that meet the Fed requirement and thus allow the use of a safe affidavit for CA compliance?

Yes I believe it would. The Fed's definition of lock

(34) The term “secure gun storage or safety device” means—
(A) a device that, when installed on a firearm, is designed to
prevent the firearm from being operated without first
deactivating the device;
(B) a device incorporated into the design of the firearm that is
designed to prevent the operation of the firearm by anyone not
having access to the device; or
(C) a safe, gun safe, gun case, lock box, or other device
that is designed to be or can be used to store a firearm and
that is designed to be unlocked only by means of a key, a
combination, or other similar means.

(B) would certainly seem to apply here. Just don't forget the safe affidavit for CA.

[bigcalidave]

The CA definition also applies to valid integrated locking devices, but they are specifically listed on the AG website http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/fsdcertlist

If the handgun shipped new with a lock from that list, and its included with the sale, you should be fine. If you are buying a handgun, new or PPT and the handgun includes no lock/ locking device from that list, you do need to get a new one, the FFL was pretty accurate. The sheriff needs to issue a receipt with the lock, its strange that they don't know WHY they have those locks

You should only need a safe affidavit when buying a long gun without a lock, both in CA and federal law.

To avoid confusion again :P

Feds say you have to have a lock with a handgun as you leave the store. CA says IF you are going with a lock, it has to meet the standards from the link I provided above, which includes the specific integral safety devices.

[Santa Cruz Armory]

This crap is exactly why our shop does the lock exchange program. bring us a CA approved lock and we give you a new lock with each purchase.

[ripro75]

This crap is exactly why our shop does the lock exchange program. bring us a CA approved lock and we give you a new lock with each purchase.

Same here. If customer doesn't have a lock to exchange, I just give them one compliments of the Sheriff Dept. Maybe someday some people will donate some old locks so I can continue to give them out for free when I run out of the Project Child Safe locks.

[EBR Works]

We did this for the past 6 months, but the local sheriff has run out of the project child safe locks and they told me there would be no more available.

Just bought a bunch of DAK locks and will just sell them at cost..

[tenpercentfirearms]

We did this for the past 6 months, but the local sheriff has run out of the project child safe locks and they told me there would be no more available.

Just bought a bunch of DAK locks and will just sell them at cost..

Lock trade in is much better!

[ca2azpi]

OK, nevermind. I understand that i can use the :

Firearms safety devices are listed by description and/or make and model. A firearm is determined to be compatible with a safety device if it either:

1. Matches the description associated with a safety device as reflected on the report of descriptions and devices.

And the Regal Lock is on the above description and list?

[Ubermcoupe]

Can I sell myself a lock (with receipt) to use with each HG purchase?

[curvejunkie]

Am I incorrect in saying that if I had an infinate supply of the Project child safe locks I could just supply one of those with every sale and cover myself?

[MaHoTex]

Same here. If customer doesn't have a lock to exchange, I just give them one compliments of the Sheriff Dept. Maybe someday some people will donate some old locks so I can continue to give them out for free when I run out of the Project Child Safe locks.

I do this for my LGS. I had a pile of them sitting around so I gave them a handful to help the cause. They were doing nothing but sitting in a box and wasting space anyway.

[EBR Works]

Am I incorrect in saying that if I had an infinate supply of the Project child safe locks I could just supply one of those with every sale and cover myself?

Yes. Unfortunately, they are not infinite. Our local sheriff has run out....

[tenpercentfirearms]

Am I incorrect in saying that if I had an infinate supply of the Project child safe locks I could just supply one of those with every sale and cover myself?

I haven't sold a gun lock in like three years.

[curvejunkie]

I haven't sold a gun lock in like three years.

From looking at locks included in our Sig pistols, they all are fine according to the DOJ site correct? Why would you need to sell one in general?

[halifax]

Yes. Unfortunately, they are not infinite. Our local sheriff has run out....

According to the woman at my local Sheriff's office who was supplying me with Project Child Safe locks, the USDOJ (Holder?) put the kibosh on the program; so, until further notice, no more free PCS locks.

[tenpercentfirearms]

From looking at locks included in our Sig pistols, they all are fine according to the DOJ site correct? Why would you need to sell one in general?

I sell very few Sigs. Many manufacturers do not included a CA Approved FSD like Taurus and AR15 lower receivers. So those customers either need a lock, a safe affidavit, or some combination of the two. We don't hassle them about buying a lock, we give them a Project Childsafe 107 China and tell them if they aren't going to use it, bring it back by and re-donate it to the cause on another day.