Just a Rant!

[Sacramento Black Rifle]

[halifax]

LOL, yep it really surprises me some of the illegal stuff I've been asked to do by customers because I'm supposed to be on their side.

I wish I could but it ain't worth it.

[ElvenSoul]

Just send them here...we love helping

[dachan]

There is a possibility that when the father registered the AW, he properly designated his son as the heir and that the RAW is now legally his.

[negolien]

agree

There is a possibility that when the father registered the AW, he properly designated his son as the heir and that the RAW is now legally his.

Ya sounds like his father legally owned the weapon and died and he's wondering what to do with it. Way to increase your customer base......Doesn't surprise me though well done sir. Then coming here to post about it is even more fail sauce. I went to your shop one time and never went back.

[halifax]

There is a possibility that when the father registered the AW, he properly designated his son as the heir and that the RAW is now legally his.

I haven't seen a RAW form in years so I don't really remember if there was a line to designate an heir. Is that true?

[Sacramento Black Rifle]

He can never own the weapon, however he could have shipped it out of state with the proper paperwork but he had none.. I tried to give him all the info to someone that could better assist in this. So shame on me for my FAIL sauce... And for me posting this in the FFL section.

[dachan]

I haven't seen a RAW form in years so I don't really remember if there was a line to designate an heir. Is that true?

Yes it was possible to designate an heir, but only at the time of registration. Also, it was only possible to designate one "generation" of inheiritance and the heir had to be 18yrs old at the time.

But this is from nearly 20yr memory. I've been trying to find a copy of the forms to verify but haven't been successful so far.

[Bolillo]

There is a possibility that when the father registered the AW, he properly designated his son as the heir and that the RAW is now legally his.

Nope. Very few choices on inheriting a RAW: Move it out of state, turn it in to LE, or destroy it. CPC 12285 (b) There's also an option of selling it to a FFL with an CA AW permit, but I understand that those FFLs are few and far between. And the resale value would be minimal because there's no CA market. Ditto with out-of-state, since outside CA, it's just another EBR.

AFAIK, a CA AW is the only piece of property that can't simply be inherited. Not even in a family trust. There's probably a court case to be had under 14A Equal Protection grounds, but it's such a small number of owners relative to the CCW, Roster, 2A issues the Right People are already tied up with.

[thedrickel]

I thought the estate has 90 (?) days to dispose of the AW . . . ?

[halifax]

Yes it was possible to designate an heir, but only at the time of registration. Also, it was only possible to designate one "generation" of inheiritance and the heir had to be 18yrs old at the time.

But this is from nearly 20yr memory. I've been trying to find a copy of the forms to verify but haven't been successful so far.

Thanks dachan.

Man, I don't remember a thing about that.

[ke6guj]

Yes it was possible to designate an heir, but only at the time of registration. Also, it was only possible to designate one "generation" of inheiritance and the heir had to be 18yrs old at the time.

But this is from nearly 20yr memory. I've been trying to find a copy of the forms to verify but haven't been successful so far.

don't recall anything like that on the form.

I thought the estate has 90 (?) days to dispose of the AW . . . ?

true. the caller might have been inside the 90-window and therefore not commiitted a felony yet.

[ke6guj]

don't recall anything like that on the form.

here is the AW registration form, no spot for heirs.

[Sacramento Black Rifle]

The customer called you wanting guidance. He objected to your "enthusiasm."
It is not the words we say, but how they are communicated. Perceived excitement was not what he needed to hear.

You're not the bad guy, but calm steps in how to handle this problem would have been better received.

Non-gun guys get wigged out easily about guns. Confident and calm always goes over well.

And that is why I gave him Jason Davis's phone number.

[tenpercentfirearms]

Ya sounds like his father legally owned the weapon and died and he's wondering what to do with it. Way to increase your customer base......Doesn't surprise me though well done sir. Then coming here to post about it is even more fail sauce. I went to your shop one time and never went back.

This is why we need to hurry and get the CAL-FFL boards up and running. You will be able to vent and not have the peanut gallery blow things out of proportion.

However, I do agree this is fail sauce as far as venting goes. Now this is venting!

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=130071