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  • EBR Works
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Dec 2007
    • 10492

    Assembling complete AR uppers & lowers is manufacturing/secondary markings required??

    In conversation with the IOI with whom I will do my initial interview for an 07 later this week I mentioned that I intended to buy complete uppers and lowers and assemble them for sale. She stated that as an FFL it was mandatory that I mark these firearms with my own markings. This was very surprising to me since I cannot see how assembling a completed upper and lower would necessitate secondary markings. Any thoughts on this?
    Last edited by EBR Works; 03-22-2011, 10:18 AM.


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    bjl333
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      jtmkinsd
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 2352

      You would be completing the build of a functional firearm, then selling it. Unfortunately, that simple step is manufacturing I believe. It's the reason I can receive lowers without a bullet button installed, because even though the upper and lower are in the same box, it's not a complete rifle till I put them together. If I put them together I have "manufactured" an illegal assault weapon. Technically, if someone buys all the parts to a rifle and has them shipped to me, I can't assemble them until they have done their DROS, waited their 10 days, picked up their parts, and then give them back to me as a repair job.
      Last edited by jtmkinsd; 03-21-2011, 9:00 PM.
      Originally posted by orangeglo
      Welcome to failtown, population = you.

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      • #4
        Table Rock Arms
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 812

        You would also be required to pay FET of 11% if you do more than 50 in a year.

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          bohoki
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 20826

          i guess you are "making" a rifle

          an ffl told me that years ago
          everyday joes are exempt because we are allowed to make a firearm for our own personal usage

          it does sound a bit odd to say you manufactured the rifle being it has a manufacturer and serial on it but legally i guess its true

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            EBR Works
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Dec 2007
            • 10492

            My puzzlement is in the requirement to add markings in this scenario even though the receiver already has the original manufacturer markings. We're talking about mating a complete upper and lower, not assembling a firearm from parts.


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            • #7
              FNH5-7
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2009
              • 9407

              Originally posted by impactco
              In conversation with the IOI with whom I will do my initial interview for an 07 later this week I mentioned that I intended to buy complete uppers and lowers and assemble them for sale. She stated that as an FFL it was mandatory that I mark these firearms with my own markings. This was very surprising to me since I cannot see how assembling a completed upper and lower is manufacturing. Any thoughts on this?
              My thoughts exactly, unfortunately this is the law and this is what I've been told by many FFL's when I was trying to have an AR Pistol built.
              Originally posted by FalconLair
              I weep for my country and what it is becoming.

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