PPT Gun Lock

[ke6guj]

Now would they apply to a handgun for the federal law? That is a tough one. I would consider the internal lock a safety device.

It appears it would.

(z) SECURE GUN STORAGE OR
SAFTEY DEVICE—
(1) IN GENERAL- Except as
Provided under paragraph (2), it shall
be unlawful for any licensed
importer, licensed manufacturer, or
licensed dealer to sell, deliver, or
transfer any handgun to any person
other than any person licensed under
this chapter, unless the transferee is
provided with a secure gun storage
or safety device (as defined in sec
tion 921(a)(34)) for than handgun.

921(a)(34) The term "secure gun storage
or safety device" means—
(A) a device that, when installed
on a firearm, is designed to prevent
the firearm from being operated without
first deactivating the device;
(B) a device incorporated into the
design of the firearm that is designed
to prevent the operation of the firearm
by anyone not having access to
the device; or
(C) a safe, gun safe, gun case,
lock box, or other device that is designed
to be or can be used to store
a firearm and that is designed to be
unlocked only by means of a key, a
combination, or other similar means.

sure looks like an internal lock would comply with 921(a)(34)(B) but I don't think that "Better yet, if the handgun has a safety device like a 1911 thumb safety or a Glock Safe Action Pistol trigger safety, that would seem to work too!!! " would be acceptable

[tenpercentfirearms]

sure looks like an internal lock would comply with 921(a)(34)(B) but I don't think that "Better yet, if the handgun has a safety device like a 1911 thumb safety or a Glock Safe Action Pistol trigger safety, that would seem to work too!!! " would be acceptable

Bummer. Oh well.

[kemasa]

I guess I'm too dense for that one.

Which sentence in the law says the dealer must provide it. I must have missed it.

Talk to the BATF attorney, not me. I don't think that the dealer has to provide it, but I am not the one who enforces it. The BATF has not done what is required either, but I can't do anything about that either.

http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2006/04/042106-openletter-ffl-child-safety-locks.html

Page 2:

http://www.atf.gov/publications/newsletters/ffl/ffl-newsletter-2006-03.pdf

Go look at CA PC 12020 and see what the law says and then look to see how it is enforced. That is just another example or many.

[ke6guj]

The BATF has done what is required either, but I can't do anything about that either.

have they done what is required, or is that a typo?

have the regulations ever been approved and published?

[Donny1]

Thanks guys for all the info. I did just find out from the seller that a "factory" lock is included in the deal I'm doing this weekend.

Again, thanks for the lesson.

[kemasa]

have they done what is required, or is that a typo?

have the regulations ever been approved and published?

That is what I am talking about. The answer is NO.

[ke6guj]

I like how even though the regulations that implement the statute have not been approved and published, you are still required to comply with the statute.

[Rob454]

So can you bring in your own lock from a store? Or is the receipt sufficient that you bought a gun lock in the last 30 days? I have a ton of locks a safe and I dont need anymore gun locks. Especially not for 15$ from the gun store for a lock that costs 1.50$

[tenpercentfirearms]

So can you bring in your own lock from a store? Or is the receipt sufficient that you bought a gun lock in the last 30 days? I have a ton of locks a safe and I dont need anymore gun locks. Especially not for 15$ from the gun store for a lock that costs 1.50$

If you bring in the lock and you want to be exempt from (a), then you need a receipt showing your purchased it within 30 days so you can meet (e).

In my store, if you brought in a gun lock and gave it to me. I would make sure your handgun came with a different model gun lock.

I call it the trade in program.

Many dealers probably won't do that because they actually sell gun locks. I haven't sold one in probably three years.