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  • eltee
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 897

    Deactivating a Firearm, Paperwork Requirements?

    For a display piece, what paperwork is required when you render a firearm deactivated for a display? Essentially, the plan is to take a commercially available rifle permanently deactivated through cuts, blocks, milling (bolt face, etc.) and welding.

    I've looked on the Ca DOJ and BATFE sites and don't see anything useful.

    The gun will meet the legendary "eight hour rule" about being able to be reactivated. Essentially, it would be easier to build a gun from scratch using hardware store parts than it would be to REactivate this gun. Sort of like how they turn M1 Garands permanently into "parade guns."

    Anyway, if the gun is currently 4473'd /DROS'd to someone, etc., what does the owner do paperwork wise once the gun is turned into a permanent paperweight? THANKS for any help.
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    halifax
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4440

    Isn't there something about pouring lead down the barrel?

    Log it to yourself, then log it back-in if you re-activate it.

    Sorry, just guessing here.
    Last edited by halifax; 07-17-2010, 11:45 AM.
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      ke6guj
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      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Nov 2003
      • 23725

      Originally posted by eltee
      For a display piece, what paperwork is required when you render a firearm deactivated for a display? Essentially, the plan is to take a commercially available rifle permanently deactivated through cuts, blocks, milling (bolt face, etc.) and welding.

      I've looked on the Ca DOJ and BATFE sites and don't see anything useful.

      The gun will meet the legendary "eight hour rule" about being able to be reactivated. Essentially, it would be easier to build a gun from scratch using hardware store parts than it would be to REactivate this gun. Sort of like how they turn M1 Garands permanently into "parade guns."

      Anyway, if the gun is currently 4473'd /DROS'd to someone, etc., what does the owner do paperwork wise once the gun is turned into a permanent paperweight? THANKS for any help.
      well, current federal procedures to deactivate a firearm basically require the receiver be cut into pieces. merely plugging a barrel or milling the bolt so it won't work aren't usually enough. to find out what ATF would require you do to the firearm so that it would no lonnger be considered a firearm, you'd probably need to contact the Tech Branch. They would give you the exact requrements you need to follow for that specific type of firearm.

      Now, since long guns are not registered, there is no need to inform anyone when the long gun is demilled. But you could always send in one of these to CADOJ, http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/BOF4546NLIP0209.pdf , if you wanted.
      Jack



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        Mssr. Eleganté
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        • Oct 2005
        • 10401

        Currently, ATF requires machine gun receivers to be torch cut (no saw cuts) into four pieces in order to be considered deactivated enough for importation.





        So display guns are usually built with an original parts kit on a newly made dummy receiver. I have no idea if they extend this to non-machineguns or non-imports.
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        • #5
          halifax
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          • Oct 2005
          • 4440

          How does one display an item that has been cut into pieces?
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            ke6guj
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            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by halifax
            How does one display an item that has been cut into pieces?
            well, after it was demilled to a point tht it was no longer a firearm, it can be "re-weled" into a non-gun block of steel that just looks like a receiver.
            Jack



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            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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              bjl333
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              • Dec 2009
              • 7010

              How about just going to a machine shop and ask them to make a solid reciever for you. Just like the 80% recievers we see here. It'll work even if its made of alumium.
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              • #8
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                • Jan 2008
                • 12902

                Originally posted by halifax
                How does one display an item that has been cut into pieces?
                In a clear box!!!
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