Question on PPT transfer for handgun and registration

[POLICESTATE]

Okay a weird question I know so here goes:

I know someone who is considering selling a pistol, now always wanting to take advantage of a good deal I am considering making an offer on it, however I'm concerned it might not be registered, so as a result is that going to cause some trouble with the PPT?

What do you FFL's think?

[ke6guj]

It'll be registered to you when you do the PPT. CADOJ doesn't really care about a handgun's previous registration history, unless it comes up stolen.

[kemasa]

What he said. Some firearms were transferred before the requirement that firearms had to be transferred through a dealer, so this means that CA does not know who owns them.

[CHS]

Makes no difference whatsoever. The FFL won't even know or care.

[dirtyJ]

Too late for me to reiterate? No? Awesome. Won't matter at all unless the gun is stolen.

[POLICESTATE]

I know it's not stolen so great! Looks like I'll be adding another pistol to the collection

Thanks for the advice everyone, I figured as much but with times being what they are now, I can't afford to lose $35+$25 on PPT/DROS/Registration, better safe than out 60 bucks

[ugimports]

I know it's not stolen so great! Looks like I'll be adding another pistol to the collection

Thanks for the advice everyone, I figured as much but with times being what they are now, I can't afford to lose $35+$25 on PPT/DROS/Registration, better safe than out 60 bucks

Should only be $35.00 to the dealer. ($10 PPT Fee, $25 DROS) -- You can choose to pay more if you wish, but you shouldn't be required to pay more.

[ke6guj]

I can't afford to lose $35+$25 on PPT/DROS/Registration, better safe than out 60 bucks

PPTs are limited to $35 total. $25 DROS + $10 dealer fee.

CADOJ considers a PPT to be a transfer between 2 CA residents. The seller must hand-deliver the handgun to the dealer doing the PPT DROS. If if is shpped in, or the seller is not a CA-resident, it isn't a PPT.

[POLICESTATE]

I thought there was also a $25 fee for the handgun registration? That's not included in the DROS fee right?

[ke6guj]

the $25 in DROS fees covers all state fees.

[ugimports]

I thought there was also a $25 fee for the handgun registration? That's not included in the DROS fee right?

The DROS fee is effectively that handgun registration you're referring to. The background check and registration happens with the same $25.00 fee.

[Quiet]

I thought there was also a $25 fee for the handgun registration? That's not included in the DROS fee right?

There is no $25 fee for handgun registration.

[POLICESTATE]

That's odd, last new pistol I bought the FFL tacked on a $25 registration fee. Sounds like I got screwed!

[ke6guj]

For a handgun that you buy at a dealer, the DROS costs are $25 in state fees plus any dealer fee the dealer may wish to charge. They can't pass off dealer fees as state fees.

What fees can I charge in addition to the DROS?

In addition to the State's $19.00 DROS fee, you must also charge a $1.00 Firearms Safety Testing fee and a $5.00 Safety and Enforcement fee. If the transaction being processed is a dealer sale, consignment return, or return from pawn, you may impose other charges as long as this amount is clearly shown as a "dealer fee" and not misrepresented as a State fee.

(PC sections 12071(b)(11), (12))

[ugimports]

That's odd, last new pistol I bought the FFL tacked on a $25 registration fee. Sounds like I got screwed!

That might be what he called the DROS fee. For example if you paid:

$500 for gun
$50 for tax (assuming 10%)
$25 for "Registration"

and that was it, then he just called the DROS fee the handgun registration fee.

However, if you paid:
$500 for gun
$50 for tax (assuming 10%)
$25 for "Registration"
$25 for DROS

Then yes, you paid a little more then what most shops would charge for an inventory sale.