Out of state transfer

[rscot]

I want to buy a garand from an out of state seller. Can it be shipped by a private party to my ffl or does it have to be ffl to ffl? Bringing more guns into CA., Yeah!

[kemasa]

It can be shipped by a private party, if the FFL is willing to accept it from a private party. It is up to the FFL who is receiving it.

[onegreatshot]

I've got 2 questions to ask reference gun transfers, I know they are here some where, but eyes are crossing looking for the articles.
1) I learned that cal. is collecting out of state tax on guns purchased out of state when a FFL is filed?? This will add a considerable amount of money onto my paid for gun.
2) I want to do a person to person transfer for a hand gun, I saw a site that had the form to go to but now I can not find it. I understand all you do is pay the DROS fee and that is all there is to it.
Thanks for any help and sorry if this is a much repeated question. Onegreatshot

[onegreatshot]

I'm new to this web site and enjoy what I read on the technical side and I now have a couple of questions to ask, which have no dought be asked several times before.
1) I have ordered an expensive shotgun out of state and it will soon be ready to ship. I heard word that the state of Ca. is now charging tax and guns purchased out of state when an FFL is filed, is this truth or rumor.

2) Some where on this site was a thread about person to person transfers for citizens in the state of Ca. for hand gun purchases. you clicked on the tread and it gave you the form to file and paid the DROS fees, I lost it does anyone have any idea how to get to the form so I can down load it.

Thanks to all who have the knowledge to assist me on my questions
Onegreatshot

[paul0660]

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...rms_Interstate

1........yes your FFL should charge sales tax and pass it along to the state.

2 ........person to person (aka face to face) transfers have to take place at a FFL, who can charge no more than 10 plus 25 dollars for that service. The form to which you refer is for different transfers, mainly from wills and intrafamilial.

[RickD6023]

To piggyback on this thread with a similar question - My mother living in PA has two shotguns that she wants to transfer to me. Both are 50+ yrs old (maybe as much as 70). What steps are best to follow for her to ship the guns to me?

Thanks in advance for the help and advice.

[ke6guj]

To piggyback on this thread with a similar question - My mother living in PA has two shotguns that she wants to transfer to me. Both are 50+ yrs old (maybe as much as 70). What steps are best to follow for her to ship the guns to me?

Thanks in advance for the help and advice.

either you have your mom ship the firearms to your local FFL, or she can hand-deliver them to the FFL the next time she is in town, and the FFL DROSe them to you. The FFL may charge any fee he wishes, $25DROS + $25-100 transfer fees is common. And they could charge you the transfer fee twice if they wished.

Or, spend $30 and get a C&R FFL and your mom can send you those 50+ year old C&R shotguns directly to your house via UPS/Fedex or USPS. You would then just log in your mom's info into your bound book and call it done.

$30 versus $75-200.

[dirtyJ]

Wouldn't Rick just be able to do an intrafamilial transfer since it's his mom? Fill out the form, then send in the check and poof.

[ke6guj]

Wouldn't Rick just be able to do an intrafamilial transfer since it's his mom? Fill out the form, then send in the check and poof.

No, to do so would violate federal law if he didn't have an FFL. Federal law prohibits the transfer of firearms between unlicensed individuals of different states. There is no federal intrafamily exemption in federal law for this. There is an exemption for firearms that are willed or bequethed to the recipient. So, I guess, if Rick really wanted to, he could wait for his mother to die and legally receive them without violating federal law regarding the transfer, if he was named in her will as the recipient.. But, I think Rick would rather pay the transfer fees

The intrafamily form only covers state law, and isn't even needed for long guns.

[RickD6023]

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Or, spend $30 and get a C&R FFL and your mom can send you those 50+ year old C&R shotguns directly to your house via UPS/Fedex or USPS. You would then just log in your mom's info into your bound book and call it done...

Thanks - I like the creative but legal approach. I'm off to get the paperwork started.

[dirtyJ]

No, to do so would violate federal law if he didn't have an FFL. Federal law prohibits the transfer of firearms between unlicensed individuals of different states. There is no federal intrafamily exemption in federal law for this. There is an exemption for firearms that are willed or bequethed to the recipient. So, I guess, if Rick really wanted to, he could wait for his mother to die and legally receive them without violating federal law regarding the transfer, if he was named in her will as the recipient.. But, I think Rick would rather pay the transfer fees

The intrafamily form only covers state law, and isn't even needed for long guns.

Interesting. So his mom would have to become a resident of CA, at least get a CA ID card, for that to work. I did not know that.

[kemasa]

1) I have ordered an expensive shotgun out of state and it will soon be ready to ship. I heard word that the state of Ca. is now charging tax and guns purchased out of state when an FFL is filed, is this truth or rumor.

The requirement for a FFL to collect sales tax has not changed for a long time, but some FFLs are either not aware of it or just do not collect it.

If the firearm comes from a private party, is an occasional sale and the person does not have a business, then no sales tax is collected on the firearm or the FFL fee. Otherwise, it is required.

2) Some where on this site was a thread about person to person transfers for citizens in the state of Ca. for hand gun purchases. you clicked on the tread and it gave you the form to file and paid the DROS fees, I lost it does anyone have any idea how to get to the form so I can down load it.

The transfer has to be done at a FFL and the maximum charge is $35, $25 for the DROS and $10 for the FFL. This assume that you have a HSC card, which is $25. You can only fill out a form if the firearm comes from certain family members (grandparent-parent-child, no brother/sister transfers).

[kemasa]

Or, spend $30 and get a C&R FFL and your mom can send you those 50+ year old C&R shotguns directly to your house via UPS/Fedex or USPS. You would then just log in your mom's info into your bound book and call it done.

$30 versus $75-200.

I believe that you also need the CA DOJ COE in order to receive the firearms, so the cost goes up, but it is still the way to go since then you are exempt from the 1 gun per month for modern handguns, no waiting period for C&R handguns and can directly receive C&R long guns.

[ke6guj]

Interesting. So his mom would have to become a resident of CA, at least get a CA ID card, for that to work. I did not know that.

correct, mom would have to become a CA resident for her to legally do an non-FFL intrafamily transfer without violating federal law.

[paul0660]

No need for a COE if he has an 03. Aren't they mostly for FFL employees, with the aforementioned advantages for the rest of us?