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  • #31
    JeffM
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 4359

    Originally posted by thedrickel
    There's no way the guy would know that you added long guns to a pistol DROS or extra long guns to a long gun DROS unless he cross checked the DROS's with the 4473's (or the bound book, which would be more work for him) . . . did he do that?
    What if an FFL were to keep the DROSs and 4473's completely separate? The DOJ has no reason to see the 4473's as they are federal documents.

    Oh and:

    12071(b) A license is subject to forfeiture for a breach of any of the following prohibitions and requirements:
    (4) No pistol, revolver, or other firearm or imitation thereof capable of being concealed upon the person, or placard advertising the sale or other transfer thereof, shall be displayed in any part of the premises where it can readily be seen from the outside.
    Just noticed the above in bold. It doesn't say anything about a sign outside the premise.

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    • #32
      yzErnie
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Mar 2007
      • 6309

      Wes,
      Getting back to the OP of him asking for the specific DROS...since the CFLC authorization letters do not have any serial numbers on them, I wonder how and why he asked for that specific one?
      The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

      Originally posted by RazoE
      I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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      • #33
        tenpercentfirearms
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Apr 2005
        • 13007

        Originally posted by yzernie
        Wes,
        Getting back to the OP of him asking for the specific DROS...since the CFLC authorization letters do not have any serial numbers on them, I wonder how and why he asked for that specific one?
        Yzernie, it seems you missed this thread and this line, "Well except that didn't actually happen." However, after re-reading you might have thought I just didn't crap my pants. Well actually, he didn't ask for the number. It would seem the DOJ does not troll the FFL forum looking for things to do. Or possibly they do and they realize there is nothing they can do about adding long guns to a DROS or piggy backing long guns on a handgun DROS and 4473.
        www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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        • #34
          yzErnie
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Mar 2007
          • 6309

          My bad, sorry.
          The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

          Originally posted by RazoE
          I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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          • #35
            evanp
            Banned
            • Dec 2009
            • 15

            Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
            Maybe eventually the DOJ. For now me.
            Only a fool would dros a handgun before having it in hand. I would have thought a dealer such as yourself would use more common sense. Looking at PC Code is no excuse. Then again this is CalGuns.

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            • #36
              evanp
              Banned
              • Dec 2009
              • 15

              Originally posted by hnoppenberger
              You know what, im not an 01, so I really shouldnt be commenting here, but just bending over and being happy to take anything really is beyond me. This is how injustice is served, without a fight. Im glad it was not worse, and hope you can dispute what happened wrongly, and hopefully bring that to their attention so they dont go around making up laws again. I mean comon, does no one else think its rediculous government entities go around and make up their own rules as they go and then fail know the laws on the books?
              You are not an 01 ffl so you know not of what you speek.

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              • #37
                ke6guj
                Moderator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Nov 2003
                • 23725

                Originally posted by evanp
                Only a fool would dros a handgun before having it in hand. I would have thought a dealer such as yourself would use more common sense. Looking at PC Code is no excuse. Then again this is CalGuns.
                what would be the harm in DROSing a handgun that you don't physically have in hand? As long as you have the pertinant info, you should be able to start the DROS. If there was a problem, you could either amend the DROS, or cancell it, as needed.

                Turners does this all the time when they have a sale. They don't have enough firearms at the store and often sell handguns that are at the warehouse. Those handguns aren't "on hand" and are probably not even on the books of that Turners. Each Turner's location has its own FFL.
                Jack



                Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                • #38
                  halifax
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 4440

                  Originally posted by evanp
                  Only a fool would dros a handgun before having it in hand. I would have thought a dealer such as yourself would use more common sense. Looking at PC Code is no excuse. Then again this is CalGuns.
                  I don't get it? Why is it so foolish?

                  ETA: OK, this was kind of joke?
                  Last edited by halifax; 03-06-2010, 8:56 AM.
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                  • #39
                    FastFinger
                    In Memoriam
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 2983

                    Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                    So the DOJ

                    He inspected all of my firearms...

                    Honestly, over all I really liked this auditor...

                    Overall I gained a little respect for the DOJ today.
                    Geez, get a room you two.
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