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  • #16
    tenpercentfirearms
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Apr 2005
    • 13007

    Originally posted by hnoppenberger
    You know what, im not an 01, so I really shouldnt be commenting here, but just bending over and being happy to take anything really is beyond me. This is how injustice is served, without a fight.
    You have only been here since November 2008. Go do some research on my bending over and happily taking things. You will soon feel the fool.

    Not to mention your reading comprehension is lacking. I clearly stated this issue isn't finished yet. You mistake careful and wise response for submission. You won't find me going off half cocked with an auditor in my business. And maybe that is why I am a successful FFL and you might want to do more reading and less commenting.
    www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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    • #17
      gotgunz
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 1972

      I can say without any reservations that the pc quoted is quite possibly the stupidest law I have ever seen, period.

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      • #18
        Peter W Bush
        Calguns Supreme Overlord
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2009
        • 4727

        Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
        You have only been here since November 2008. Go do some research on my bending over and happily taking things. You will soon feel the fool.

        Not to mention your reading comprehension is lacking. I clearly stated this issue isn't finished yet. You mistake careful and wise response for submission. You won't find me going off half cocked with an auditor in my business. And maybe that is why I am a successful FFL and you might want to do more reading and less commenting.
        LOL what do you guys know about bringing EBRs into California????
        Will trade liquor/wine/beer for parts and accesories and ammo! PM me. Dont drink n shoot. Offer void where prohibited. Must be 21 or older, etc. etc.

        Originally posted by TURBOELKY
        Well, glad you got the kit anyways, I'm sure I'll fondle it a little in the near future..... oh God, that's going to be in somebody's signature....:D
        Originally posted by TURBOELKY
        put me in line, but if Peter W. Bush takes it, I need to be removed from his Signature line.......:D

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        • #19
          halifax
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 4440

          Originally posted by gotgunz
          I can say without any reservations that the pc quoted is quite possibly the stupidest law I have ever seen, period.
          If you are talking about the "no displaying of handguns to the public" one, I'd have to agree. Where do they come up with this stuff?

          Since I work out of my house, I guess I'll need to take this out of my window


          PC 12071(b)(1)(c)


          Quote:
          (4) No pistol, revolver, or other firearm or imitation thereof capable of being concealed upon the person, or placard advertising the sale or other transfer thereof, shall be displayed in any part of the premises where it can readily be seen from the outside.
          I wonder if my business cards, which have a revolver on them, is a violation of this "law" once the customer leaves with a card. Probably a stretch but you never know.


          Wes, please keep us informed about the write-up and resolution. I agree that the actual statute doesn't seem to support his view.
          Last edited by halifax; 02-24-2010, 5:23 AM. Reason: added content
          Jim


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          • #20
            bohoki
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 20815

            the pc doesnt seem to ban the word "pistol" "handgun" "revolver" though only the "image" of said item

            of course i wonder about ascii

            ooops reread guess you cant have signage of the sale or transfer of pistols
            Last edited by bohoki; 02-24-2010, 10:23 PM.

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            • #21
              paul0660
              In Memoriam
              • Jul 2007
              • 15669

              but just bending over and being happy to take anything really is beyond me
              10% has said twice, or more, that it was not the time and place to have a showdown..........but he will.
              *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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              • #22
                JeffM
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 4359

                Thanks ke6guj and Wes for the PC 12071(b)(1)(c) reference.

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                • #23
                  Mssr. Eleganté
                  Blue Blaze Irregular
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 10401

                  Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                  So the DOJ stopped by for an audit today and the very first thing the agent said when he walked through the door was...

                  I need to see the DROS associated with 4473 #13509!!! And I mean now!
                  __________________

                  "Knowledge is power... For REAL!" - Jack Austin

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                  • #24
                    nrvnqsrxk
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 983

                    DOJ audits are scary?

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                    • #25
                      bubbapug1
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 7958

                      Originally posted by hnoppenberger
                      You know what, im not an 01, so I really shouldnt be commenting here, but just bending over and being happy to take anything really is beyond me. This is how injustice is served, without a fight. Im glad it was not worse, and hope you can dispute what happened wrongly, and hopefully bring that to their attention so they dont go around making up laws again. I mean comon, does no one else think its rediculous government entities go around and make up their own rules as they go and then fail know the laws on the books?

                      Its easy to talk of bull fighting when your not in the ring....
                      I love America for the rights and freedoms we used to have.

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                      • #26
                        jamesob
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 4821

                        Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                        Oh one more thing. You can't have an image of a pistol or the words pistol on your sign out front. We had a really good metal revolver that a Calgunner made for us out on our sign and we had to take it down. That is good to know because it would have sucked to have had a pistol on the sign of our new building only to take it down. I think we will do something less evil like AR15s.
                        there is a pawn shop in visalia with a sign on a wall that has ar's, pistols and shotguns, and they don't sell ar's.

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                        • #27
                          rkt88edmo
                          Reptile&Samurai Moderator
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 10058

                          Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                          So the DOJ stopped by for an audit today and the very first thing the agent said when he walked through the door was...



                          I about crapped my pants. Well except that didn't actually happen.

                          So which part didn't actually happen? Did they come in and specifically ask to see that transaction right off the bat?
                          If it was a snake, it would have bit me.
                          Use the goog to search calguns

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                          • #28
                            TKM
                            Onward through the fog!
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 10657

                            Originally posted by hnoppenberger
                            You know what, im not an 01, so I really shouldnt be commenting here, but just bending over and being happy to take anything really is beyond me. This is how injustice is served, without a fight. Im glad it was not worse, and hope you can dispute what happened wrongly, and hopefully bring that to their attention so they dont go around making up laws again. I mean comon, does no one else think its rediculous government entities go around and make up their own rules as they go and then fail know the laws on the books?
                            So, what were you doing in December of '05 and the two week period thereafter?

                            The current state of affairs did not arise from anyone just bending over and being happy to take it. Some were moved to ride pink scooters and make other sacrifices for the common good. Do a little research before you decide to sound off again.
                            It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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                            • #29
                              G17GUY
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 2343

                              Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                              You can't have an image of a pistol or the words pistol on your sign out front.


                              Last edited by G17GUY; 02-28-2010, 9:05 PM.
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                              • #30
                                thedrickel
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 5576

                                There's no way the guy would know that you added long guns to a pistol DROS or extra long guns to a long gun DROS unless he cross checked the DROS's with the 4473's (or the bound book, which would be more work for him) . . . did he do that?
                                I hate people that are full of hate.

                                It's not illegal to tip for PPT!

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