Any issues for LEO's buying Taurus Judge?

[CHS]

So how is it possible for it to be considered a short barrel shotgun if it doesn't meet the definition of a shotgun?

There are two regulations at war here.

For the most part in CA law, a shotgun is described very specifically as something designed to fire from the shoulder. This is the definition that applies to the AW regulations, and any shotgun with a revolving cylinder is an AW.

However, to define an SBS, CA doesn't even use the definition of a shotgun at all. They simply say that ANYTHING that fires fixed shotgun ammunition with an OAL less than 26" and/or a barrel length less than 18" is an SBS and against the law. It doesn't actually have to be a shotgun first, in order to be an SBS.

[professorhard]

Wow that's pretty ridiculous.

[CHS]

Wow that's pretty ridiculous.

That right there describes 95% of CA's gun laws, and at least 75% of Federal gun laws.

[Mason McDuffie]

I have been drooling over a Judge for quite awhile now. If LEO's can get one then god bless em. Give me a freakin badge!

[CHS]

That's the thing, LEO's *CAN'T* lawfully get them. They are all in violation of CA's SBS laws. A felony.

[Mason McDuffie]

Kinda like they can't have their side windows tinted but if you go into a parking lot outside station everyone does?

[CHS]

Kinda like they can't have their side windows tinted but if you go into a parking lot outside station everyone does?

Yeah, but with less infraction. And more felony.

[CHS]

That being the case, it will be interesting to see what happens when they come looking for the tens of thousands of judges that are out there and the FFLs that are selling them.

"Tens of thousands"?

And a nice photograph of your felony.

You sir, are a bleeding moron.

[A324]

Well this is a fine kettle of fish....

[Adehtla]

The first question is, who in the CADOJ is failing to take notice of all these Judges being DROSed?

The second, who is guilty of the felony: the sellers who are offering illegal weapons for sale, the buyer who relies on the seller to provide legal-to-own weapons, or the CADOJ employee(s) who are failing to take notice of the weapons being sold?

[ke6guj]

The second, who is guilty of the felony: the sellers who are offering illegal weapons for sale, the buyer who relies on the seller to provide legal-to-own weapons, or the CADOJ employee(s) who are failing to take notice of the weapons being sold?

My guess would be both the buyers and the sellers.

12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
(1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, or possesses any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol, any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy, sandclub, sap, or sandbag.

[Peter W Bush]

Why do people take pictures of things that are illegal and post them on the internet? wtf?

[Adehtla]

Why do people take pictures of things that are illegal and post them on the internet? wtf?

Because they enjoy being examples.

[tenpercentfirearms]

I have one on my CCW, so it is legit.

[Adehtla]

I have one on my CCW, so it is legit.

Oh wow... I seriously hope you're not serious. You listed-- let me get this right-- an illegal short-barreled shortgun, which is also a handgun not on the approved register, on your CCW? You really don't like that CCW, do you?