PPT Fees for 2022?

[sass2924]

" He was charging $40 for a dealer transfer"

[Quiet]

A lot of FFLs are charging an extra fee for PPTs calling it "storage", "processing", whatever.

CADOJ doesnt seem to care. I guess their position is the less firearms transfers the better. If CADOJ had their way, there would be no private firearms ownership whatsoever let alone a process to conduct legal transfers.

Like it was mentioned, FFLs can charge whatever they want as a "processing fee" or a "storage fee"

DOJ doesnt care as long its not labeled as a "State Mandatory Fee"

They will only have issues if the extra fees were charged/labeled as a state required fee.

Some other FFLs might need to charge out necessity to keep the lights on, pay staff, etc.

I have encountered FFLs that avoid doing PPT by saying "The safe is full"

As long as the CA FFL dealer does not misstate their "processing fee" or "storage fee" as a Gov mandated fee, then it is allowed under CA laws. [PC 26880]



Penal Code 26880
A licensee shall not misstate the amount of fees charged by a governmental agency pursuant to Section 12806, Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 28050), and Article 3 (commencing with Section 28200) of Chapter 6.

[SilveradoColt21]

How can the dealer charge $40.00 when the max is $10.00 for a PPT plus $37.19 to the state???

Dealer transfer means from FFL to FFL, such as when I want a gun that is on the roster but not near me I can therefore tell the seller to drop the gun off at his FFL and then they ship it to my FFL in my area, said receiving dealer then charges me $50 on top of the standard $37.19. The dealer transfer fee is not regulated however as I have heard some FFL's charge $300 to just do the transfer .

[Rudolf the Red]

Well, rest assured that when I get my FFL up and running, I'll charge only what's legally permissible, even at gun shows.

Additional storage fees will only occur after the 11th day of the 10 day waiting period. I believe that's reasonable - anything more is just absurd.

They have 20 days to pick up. Charging a fee starting on the 11th day is pretty ruthless. I recommend against doing that unless you intend on doing it for all transfers and sales. Never heard of anyone doing that and if you want repeat customers, I recommend not doing it at all. If they skip the DROS then you can play games.

[VO3434]

Does anyone know of an FFL in the San Fernando Valley area that can do a PPT for a handgun? I am having a hard time finding a good place. Thanks

[Nardo1895]

They have 20 days to pick up. Charging a fee starting on the 11th day is pretty ruthless. I recommend against doing that unless you intend on doing it for all transfers and sales. Never heard of anyone doing that and if you want repeat customers, I recommend not doing it at all. If they skip the DROS then you can play games.

Well said

[NateTheNewbie]

The hard fact is that most FFL's are running small, low-margin businesses. Whether it's structured as a separate 'service fee' or whatever, they are trying to keep the lights on and employees paid.

If you think you can start a business doing PPT's for $47 then I say go for it! If you're successful, it will drive prices down across your area. Tell us how it works out!

[9Cal_OC]

The hard fact is that most FFL's are running small, low-margin businesses. Whether it's structured as a separate 'service fee' or whatever, they are trying to keep the lights on and employees paid.

If you think you can start a business doing PPT's for $47 then I say go for it! If you're successful, it will drive prices down across your area. Tell us how it works out!

[taperxz]

So, you're all for regulating businesses and price controls in those businesses? Thats communisim you know.

The state does this to help drive people away from opening gun stores by doing this stuff. They don't even allow FFL's to at least get the fee raised for incomes of employees afte the STATE raised the minimum wage.

Do you ever tip your FFL for doing the PPT?

[9Cal_OC]

So, you're all for regulating businesses and price controls in those businesses? Thats communisim you know.

The state does this to help drive people away from opening gun stores by doing this stuff. They don't even allow FFL's to at least get the fee raised for incomes of employees afte the STATE raised the minimum wage.

Do you ever tip your FFL for doing the PPT?

[painkiller]

I had the gun range in sac charge me 80 for a ppt last year,pretty much had me by the balls as the G43 i was buying was cheap!they had some bs excuse when i said what happened to state mandated fees

[Tyke8319]

I had the gun range in sac charge me 80 for a ppt last year,pretty much had me by the balls as the G43 i was buying was cheap!they had some bs excuse when i said what happened to state mandated fees

That really doesn't say much. perhaps you should have posted why you were charged the $80.00 and maybe that could be addressed.

[taperxz]

[Spectre1995]

They have 20 days to pick up. Charging a fee starting on the 11th day is pretty ruthless. I recommend against doing that unless you intend on doing it for all transfers and sales. Never heard of anyone doing that and if you want repeat customers, I recommend not doing it at all. If they skip the DROS then you can play games.

That makes sense. Like I said - I'm a VERY new FFL to the party, but 20 days is reasonable. I figure most everyone would want their gun immediately