PTT before Intra-Familial Transfer Report approved?

[Droidx]

I inherited a few off roster 1911's and filed my Intra-Familial Transfer Report on CFARS eight weeks ago. No updates but I'd like to sell one to fund the purchase of a new gun. Am I able to sell via PPT before my report documents have been approved? Thank you for your time, cheers

[Librarian]

Yes. (That would be "PPT", but it's clear what you meant.)

The CFARS/paper form report documents a transfer that has already occurred.

[Nardo1895]

One of my clients had a similar situation which I discussed with my DOJ rep. She advised that selling one before the current owner got his Interfamilial transfer conformation back would result in a problem.

The PPT will likely get completed first which registers the firearm in the new owner's name. Later, DOJ finally gets around to processing the Interfamilial transfer and the "owner" doesn't match the registration information. She told me he should wait until after he gets the interfamilial paperwork back to sell any of the firearms.

Sounds like maybe it would be legal to do the sale now, but it might cause problems due to the time lag at DOJ.

But maybe just a problem for DOJ to work out?

[Droidx]

Thank you, appreciate your help. Sounds like I should hold off but I'd like to hear a little more. Any idea how long the CFARS processing generally takes?

[Nardo1895]

Thank you, appreciate your help. Sounds like I should hold off but I'd like to hear a little more. Any idea how long the CFARS processing generally takes?

He submitted his interfamilial transfer forms in mid-November 2020 and got his letter back in mid-March 2021. No idea what the current timeline is.

[Librarian]

Thank you, appreciate your help. Sounds like I should hold off but I'd like to hear a little more. Any idea how long the CFARS processing generally takes?

Have not heard of CFARS timeline, other than 'shorter than paper'; paper, however, seems to be 'eight to fifty-one weeks'.

[morrcarr67]

One of my clients had a similar situation which I discussed with my DOJ rep. She advised that selling one before the current owner got his Interfamilial transfer conformation back would result in a problem.

The PPT will likely get completed first which registers the firearm in the new owner's name. Later, DOJ finally gets around to processing the Interfamilial transfer and the "owner" doesn't match the registration information. She told me he should wait until after he gets the interfamilial paperwork back to sell any of the firearms.

Sounds like maybe it would be legal to do the sale now, but it might cause problems due to the time lag at DOJ.

But maybe just a problem for DOJ to work out?

Thank you, appreciate your help. Sounds like I should hold off but I'd like to hear a little more. Any idea how long the CFARS processing generally takes?

This has been an issue discussed before. The PC says that you have to file the form in a certain amount of time. There is no PC that says you have to wait for a reply from the DOJ.

The DOJ rep is correct that it will confuse them. They will not process the remaining firearms, but instead send a reply saying there is a problem with the submitted information.

It's their problem, not yours. You have already complied with the law as written.

[taperxz]

DOJ has 30 days to determine if a transfer is legal or not. If you have filed lawfully on CFARS, you have complied with the law and can do whatever you want with that firearm.

[Nardo1895]

Can't argue with any of your logic as to legality, but if selling it now messes up his overall transfer of multiple firearms, is it worth the hassle of dealing with DOJ on that?

[Droidx]

Great feedback. If I were to continue with a PPT sale, would the FFL or receiving party encounter complications at time of transaction or in the future? Thank you all for the help. All my firearms are .45 acp & .357, I'd like to add a 9mm poly gun to the stable. If there's no legal recourse for myself or the individuals/company involved and all I need to potentially do is resubmit applications, I'd really like to move forward with this.

[taperxz]

Great feedback. If I were to continue with a PPT sale, would the FFL or receiving party encounter complications at time of transaction or in the future? Thank you all for the help. All my firearms are .45 acp & .357, I'd like to add a 9mm poly gun to the stable. If there's no legal recourse for myself or the individuals/company involved and all I need to potentially do is resubmit applications, I'd really like to move forward with this.

Do whatever you want. you have already complied with the law.

[taperxz]

Can't argue with any of your logic as to legality, but if selling it now messes up his overall transfer of multiple firearms, is it worth the hassle of dealing with DOJ on that?

It won't.