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  • Romeo_alpha01
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2017
    • 2026

    Residency question in transit to CA?

  • #2
    9Cal_OC
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2019
    • 6683

    Isn’t the NICS check pretty instant? No WI ccw?
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    • #3
      Romeo_alpha01
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2017
      • 2026

      He’s a first time gun buyer. He ordered a gun from Gunbroker so he has something while he drives across the country this coming weekend. The FFL in Texas said the pistol may not arrive until Friday or Saturday. The Wisconsin FFL receiving the pistol says there may be a delay in NICS.

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      • #4
        Nardo1895
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2016
        • 965

        I don't think this is a CA question, its a WI question.

        If he was a CA resident moving to WI under these same circumstances, I would not ship the firearm to him after DROS is complete. In CA, he has to pick it up in person and I need his signature and thumbprint upon pickup. But I don't know WI rules on that.

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        • #5
          Romeo_alpha01
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2017
          • 2026

          Originally posted by Nardo1895
          I don't think this is a CA question, its a WI question.

          If he was a CA resident moving to WI under these same circumstances, I would not ship the firearm to him after DROS is complete. In CA, he has to pick it up in person and I need his signature and thumbprint upon pickup. But I don't know WI rules on that.

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          • #6
            RoundEye
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            • Mar 2010
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            I would say no as it sounds like he filled out the 4473 when he initially purchased the firearm, and if he didn't take delivery right then and there, he needs to sign and date the 4473 again on pickup.
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            • #7
              Romeo_alpha01
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2017
              • 2026

              Originally posted by RoundEye
              I would say no as it sounds like he filled out the 4473 when he initially purchased the firearm, and if he didn't take delivery right then and there, he needs to sign and date the 4473 again on pickup.

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              • #8
                alland
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 565

                He needs to either pick it up in WI, or have it shipped to an FFL in CA for DROS here.

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                • #9
                  Romeo_alpha01
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 2026

                  Originally posted by alland
                  He needs to either pick it up in WI, or have it shipped to an FFL in CA for DROS here.
                  If it doesn't arrive by Sunday evening there's no way he could afford to wait for it, and most likely he'll have to pay a restocking fee and handling charges to return the gun to the FFL he bought it from in TX. Small price to pay but still inconvienient.

                  He can't DROS it in CA since it's not on the roster. The confusion we both have is if he is approved for release the FFL handling his pistol cannot simply just ship it after approval without my friend signing the release. Unless I'm misunderstanding something?

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                  • #10
                    Quiet
                    retired Goon
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 30241

                    Originally posted by Romeo_alpha01
                    Originally posted by alland
                    He needs to either pick it up in WI, or have it shipped to an FFL in CA for DROS here.
                    If it doesn't arrive by Sunday evening there's no way he could afford to wait for it, and most likely he'll have to pay a restocking fee and handling charges to return the gun to the FFL he bought it from in TX. Small price to pay but still inconvienient.

                    He can't DROS it in CA since it's not on the roster. The confusion we both have is if he is approved for release the FFL handling his pistol cannot simply just ship it after approval without my friend signing the release. Unless I'm misunderstanding something?
                    Since it's an off-Roster handgun, a CA FFL dealer can not legally transfer it to him unless an exemption is utilized.
                    ^Unless he is a LEO, there are no exemptions that would qualify for this scenario.

                    If he can not complete the tranfer process in WI, he will need to have the handgun returned.
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                    • #11
                      Romeo_alpha01
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 2026

                      Originally posted by Quiet
                      Since it's an off-Roster handgun, a CA FFL dealer can not legally transfer it to him unless an exemption is utilized.
                      ^Unless he is a LEO, there are no exemptions that would qualify for this scenario.

                      If he can not complete the tranfer process in WI, he will need to have the handgun returned.
                      Relayed the info to him. Just gonna have to pray it all works out for him.

                      Thanks for the info gents!

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                      • #12
                        morrcarr67
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 15018

                        Just a thought.

                        He wants the gun for safety on his trip to CA and has never bought a gun before. Has he looked at what his LGS has in stock? He may want to.

                        In WI the FFL needs to call the WI DOJ to get approval. If not given instant approval he could have to wait up to 5 days to find out. If he starts today he should know by Sunday. If he waits he may not have a gun for the trip and it will cost him money to send it back.

                        If he buys something from the LGS he would have a couple of options. He could sell the in coming gun to the LGS or someone he knows in WI. He could go ahead and pick up the incoming gun, giving him two guns. If he isn't too excited about owning two guns and picks up the incoming gun that he really wants he could sell the first gun back to the LGS or someone he knows in WI.
                        Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                        Originally posted by Erion929

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                        • #13
                          1911-CV
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 641

                          If he ends up inadvertently buying 2 off-roster guns in WI for himself (so that he can be sure he has at least 1). Wouldn't it make more sense to keep both until he establishes CA residency then sell his least favorite? Unless he's tight for cash...

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                          • #14
                            M1NM
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 7966

                            Originally posted by alland
                            He needs to either pick it up in WI, or have it shipped to an FFL in CA for DROS here.
                            IF it's on the roster. Off roster he can't have it shipped to CA but can bring it if he already has it in his possession.

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                            • #15
                              Romeo_alpha01
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2017
                              • 2026

                              Originally posted by 1911-CV
                              If he ends up inadvertently buying 2 off-roster guns in WI for himself (so that he can be sure he has at least 1). Wouldn't it make more sense to keep both until he establishes CA residency then sell his least favorite? Unless he's tight for cash...

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