Gunsmith/FFL pinning pistol barrel before transfer

[2nab]

As one of those lucky persons currently exempt from CA handgun roster restrictions, I would like to purchase a threaded barrel rimfire pistol and have its compensator pinned and welded to make it compliant.

The handgun would be a volquartsen LLV, which most are familiar with, but if not, it is an aftermarket variant of the Ruger MK series of 22lr pistols.

The question is this: Can a CA gunsmit/FFL receive that threaded item for the purpose of pinning and welding the barrel before it is transferred to myself as purchaser? Or must I have that service performed by a gunsmith out of California, before shipping it to my CA FFL? In years past, I have known multiple persons to have successfully performed that task, but I realize things keep getting harder and harder for CA FFl so I'm asking here if that service can still be performed here in CA, or if it needs to be done out of state?

Thank you for your input and responses.

Yes, for clarification, this is an item I am able to purchase and own in a non-threaded or pinned configuration, as one of those persons exempt from handgun roster.

[ugimports]

Delivered as a complete pistol to gunsmith, not unless they have an AW license. Disassembled before shipped into CA yes or work done outside CA yes.

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[2nab]

The barrel assembly is the portion that is serialized and registered as a firearm so I don't see disassembly as an option. I will look around and see if any gunsmith nearby have an AW permit. I leave near Sacramento and would be willing to drive maybe up to 5 hours each way just to give an idea of the circumference that I would consider in my reach if anybody knows of someone.

[ugimports]

The barrel assembly is the portion that is serialized and registered as a firearm so I don't see disassembly as an option. I will look around and see if any gunsmith nearby have an AW permit. I leave near Sacramento and would be willing to drive maybe up to 5 hours each way just to give an idea of the circumference that I would consider in my reach if anybody knows of someone.

What do you mean disassembly not an option? How do you clean or build it? If it is not a complete pistol it is not an AW.

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[morrcarr67]

Delivered as a complete pistol to gunsmith, not unless they have an AW license. Disassembled before shipped into CA yes or work done outside CA yes.

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I thought that someone with a California AW permit was not allowed to convert AW for sale in CA. Am I wrong or has something changed?

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[2nab]

https://i.imgur.com/exdLvuZ.jpg

Hoping this image helps to clarify.
The barrel and receiver are one unit and is the serialized portion. By unable to disassemble, I mean only that the threaded barrel can't be separated from receiver. Obviously a glock, M&P, or similar threaded barrel, or even complete slide assembly, if not attached to the frame which is the registered firearm, by itself would not constitute AW. In this case the slide is the registered firearm, which the barrel is assembled to.

That is why I'm asking here in FFL forum. Can that barrel/slide assembly which is the registered firearm be shipped to a CA gunsmith/FFL for pinning? Even though its missing the grip frame, by having threaded barrel part of registered slide/receiver, is that assembly alone an AW? Can it be shipped in, in that configuration to be made compliant before transfer?

[ugimports]

I thought that someone with a California AW permit was not allowed to convert AW for sale in CA. Am I wrong or has something changed?

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I don't have an AW permit so I don't know.

[ugimports]

https://i.imgur.com/exdLvuZ.jpg

Hoping this image helps to clarify.
The barrel and receiver are one unit and is the serialized portion. By unable to disassemble, I mean only that the threaded barrel can't be separated from receiver. Obviously a glock, M&P, or similar threaded barrel, or even complete slide assembly, if not attached to the frame which is the registered firearm, by itself would not constitute AW. In this case the slide is the registered firearm, which the barrel is assembled to.

That is why I'm asking here in FFL forum. Can that barrel/slide assembly which is the registered firearm be shipped to a CA gunsmith/FFL for pinning? Even though its missing the grip frame, by having threaded barrel part of registered slide/receiver, is that assembly alone an AW? Can it be shipped in, in that configuration to be made compliant before transfer?

Your original post didn't say the barrel/slide assembly (I just re-read it).

Yes it can be shipped as an incomplete firearm to a CA FFL without an AW permit to do the modifications you are requesting.

[rromeo]

I thought that someone with a California AW permit was not allowed to convert AW for sale in CA. Am I wrong or has something changed?

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That used to be the case, for sure. I never heard it changed, and it seems unlikely things would get better.

[acespawnshop]

That used to be the case, for sure. I never heard it changed, and it seems unlikely things would get better.

Nope, theres a provision that allows an AW permit holder to import for sale to LEO agencies or MIL so called AW, you can't import an AW for modification for resale to GP, Ill find it somewhere.

[2nab]

Thank you all for the assist. It sounds to me based upon the info presented that I will have to get it pinned before it comes into california. Thank you for your time.

[ojisan]

AudioPhil may be able to help you.
He is a FFL in AZ and makes things CA legal before shipping them here.

[ugimports]

Thank you all for the assist. It sounds to me based upon the info presented that I will have to get it pinned before it comes into california. Thank you for your time.

That's not what I said, but IANAL so it really doesn't matter what I said anyway

What you are describing is no different than a barreled ak receiver. That is not an AW either because it is not a fully functional semi automatic rifle with evil features.

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[BONECUTTER]

Nope, theres a provision that allows an AW permit holder to import for sale to LEO agencies or MIL so called AW, you can't import an AW for modification for resale to GP, Ill find it somewhere.

3/14/16 DES Bulletin:

 There is no DWP condition that authorizes CFDs to convert assault weapons
into California compliant firearms for the purpose of sales. Such action may
result in the revocation of your DWP