Expired DL

[MattyMX]

Hey all...

My CA DL expired mid March so I went to renew it and get the Real ID at the same time.

It never showed up so a few months ago I called DMV.. THey said it was mailed but not returned.

Long story short is that I have kept calling and getting nowhere. THey cannot get a new one to me for some reason.

Would a current passport stating I live in CA be valid ID?
I'm trying to sell a rifle and I know an expired DL will not be valid.

Thanks!!!

[BarrelProof]

They can print you a new one but probably won’t take responsibility for non delivery and charge you again

[ronlglock]

Passports do not have an address on them.

[MattyMX]

Thay have transfered me to the Issuance Dept many times and it has a recording stating they are busy and hangs up. I have gotten nowhere that last few months.

I can't make an appointment and when I show up in person, they turn me away every time.

[MattyMX]

Passports do not have an address on them.

But it does state I live in Ca.
I am just trying to realse my rifle legally to another person.

[sass2924]

The DOJ sent another bulletin out yesterday regarding their position on expired license. If I recall correctly they’ve extended license expiring in March of 2020 (and other months) for 1 year. Someone else may be able to post the bulletin if not I’ll take a look tomorrow. You may be ok, just need to confirm with the ffl that they will honor it.

[XxWoodsHunterxX]

[sass2924]

Still doesn’t satisfy Feds

We just finished an ATF audit and brought this subject up. The auditor said print the DOJ bulletin out and attach it to the 4473, that’s what we are doing.

[CalifEd]

You might try going to another DMV office.

[MattyMX]

Where is the bulleton? I can't find it.

[OCArmory]

When you log into DES it is under bulletins.

[Tyke8319]

IMPORTANT NOTICE
AMENDED: Regarding Expired California Driver Licenses and Identification Cards
presented during the COVID-19 State of Emergency
The purpose of this notice is to provide guidance on the acceptance of expired driver licenses and
identification cards for the purchase of firearms and ammunition during the COVID-19 state of
emergency. On March 4, 2020, California Governor Gavin Newson issued a Proclamation of a State
of Emergency due to an outbreak of respiratory illness due to COVID-19. In conjunction with this
Executive Order, the California Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) is providing temporary
extensions of driver licenses and identification cards to Californians
(https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/de...bout/dlextinfo). The Department of Justice, Bureau of
Firearms will honor these extensions for the purpose of purchasing firearms and ammunition during the
limited time DMV has provided. Accordingly,
• All California license holders under age 70 with a noncommercial driver license expiring
between March and July 2020 have an extension through July 31, 2020.
UPDATE: Applicants have the ability to renew their license online or by mail, and can
request a temporary extension while waiting for the new card.
• Californians age 70 and older with a noncommercial driver license that expires in March,
April, May, June or July 2020 were provided a 120-day extension. Licenses originally with a
March expiration are valid through July 31, 2020.
UPDATE: Driver licenses expiring in March through December 2020 are extended one
year from the original expiration date.
• Commercial driver licenses, endorsements, and certificates expiring between March and June,
are extended to June 30, 2020.
UPDATE: All commercial driver licenses, endorsements, and certificates expiring
between March and September 2020 have an extension valid through September 30.
• California Identification Cards that expire on or after March 4, 2020, to be valid through
June 21, 2020.
UPDATE: Applicants have the ability to renew their Identification Card online.
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT:
If a dealer or vendor has any reason to doubt the validity of the license, the identification card, or the
extension, the purchase can be denied.
The grace period only applies to the expiration of a driver license or identification card within the
confines of the Executive Order. All other requirements for the purchase of firearms and ammunition
remain in full force and effect. Suspended driver licenses may not be accepted.
It is recommend that dealers retain copies of the expired driver license or identification card and, if
provided, the DMV extension letter with the DROS records.
An AB 60 license is not an approved form of identification for purposes of firearm or
ammunition purchases.
Should you have any questions, please contact the Bureau of Firearms, Customer Support Center at
(855) 365-3767 or via e-mail at bofdes@doj.ca.gov.

[mtenenhaus]

i know it sucks but you might want to just make another appointment.....it was a bit of a pain in the you know where but not horrible. Once you finally make it inside the DMV the people are pretty nice to work with...Outside, i won't comment.

We called in by phone, got a computer message that had us input our phone number and someone from DMV called us back an hour later. we were able to make an appointment.

Just make sure you have all your stuff with you or trust me, they'll turn you away. They'll ask you for a confirmation number and despite all the other stuff we brought along i neglected that critical aspect of the transaction. If you don't have that you're screwed.

....thankfully when we applied for the New ID we were given a registration or confirmation code along with our appointment time, date and location. We were outside standing in line in the heat thinking we would have to do this all over again when it finally hit us that we could access the confirmatory email on our cell phone so we were back in business. Probably younger people would have figured that out quicker but for me for some reason a phone is just a phone. my bad.

We brought a bunch of items with us just in case, car registration, social security card, passport and some utility bills or bank statements if i recall. They didn't need all of them but we weren't going to take any chances.

Got it all done in 1.5 hours, paid by credit card for a little extra fee ( i think they'll also take checks).

[edgerly779]

No ca id driver license no firearm.

[MattyMX]

No ca id driver license no firearm.

I am not trying to buy one.