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  • chevy_dog
    Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 493

    Reloaded ammo PPT

    Never done one of these before. Have a customer wanting a Private Party to ship ammo he has reloaded to his friend and go through me. Since the seller would not be here to do the transfer, I assume I would buy it, place in my inventory, and sell it to the buyer. Not sure if I want to go that route due to the possible liabilities (non-factory ammo) since I am selling from my inventory and should anything go wrong it will come back on me. Thoughts on how to do this without the liability?
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    chevy_dog
    Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 493

    Anyone?

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    • #3
      sass2924
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 757

      I would accept the ammo when delivered and when the buyer came in open box verify Ammo and dros as remanufactured.

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      • #4
        Canucky
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 4265

        Licensed manufacturer? Sorry who takes responsibility. Tagged.
        Last edited by Canucky; 04-01-2020, 6:15 PM.

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        • #5
          chevy_dog
          Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 493

          Canucky - I would like to do this as a transfer, but as I understand it, just like firearm PPT, both the buyer and seller would need to be present. Can anyone confirm this? The DES system actually does not have a section for the seller. See attached screenshot.
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          • #6
            jmpgnr24k
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 990

            Non-licensed reloads are illegal to sell whether private or commercial. Now, one private party giving for free to another private party thru a FFL....I do not know. And most likely wasn’t addressed by our new Ammo laws. But for sure non- licensed reloads are illegal to sell
            Last edited by jmpgnr24k; 04-01-2020, 8:53 PM.
            Create a law that says gun control only applies to criminals.

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            • #7
              chevy_dog
              Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 493

              JMP - thanks for the feedback!

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              • #8
                Tyke8319
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Nov 2013
                • 2105

                Would you mind citing the particular CA code that prohibits the selling of reloaded ammo?
                American soldier by choice. Made in America by the Grace of God.

                So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
                Judge Roger T. Benitez
                LCM's ruled legal 3/29/2019

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                • #9
                  jmpgnr24k
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 990

                  I honestly don’t know the particular code. Though I’m sure it’s searchable. Would you mind looking it up? It’ll enlighten us all. I might even be wrong but because the OP is doing this retail it’s best to err on the side of caution. Selling ammo as a business requires an FFL and selling reloaded ammo without liability insurance is not smart.
                  Create a law that says gun control only applies to criminals.

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                  • #10
                    sass2924
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 757

                    FFL is not selling ammo. He’s transferring ammo. If someone is in the business of mfg ammo they need a license. This is not the case here

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                    • #11
                      kemasa
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 10706

                      I would think that it would be just like having a firearm transferred in from a private party. You would have no part in any money aspects. Not sure about the transfer aspect, but asking the DOJ might give some idea or a completely wrong answer :-).
                      Kemasa.
                      False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                      Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                      Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                      • #12
                        edgerly779
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 19871

                        federal law tyke try using search

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                        • #13
                          jmpgnr24k
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 990

                          Originally posted by sass2924
                          FFL is not selling ammo. He’s transferring ammo. If someone is in the business of mfg ammo they need a license. This is not the case here
                          Selling the ammo is exactly what he planned on doing
                          Create a law that says gun control only applies to criminals.

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                          • #14
                            kemasa
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 10706

                            Originally posted by jmpgnr24k
                            Selling the ammo is exactly what he planned on doing
                            No, he is just doing the transfer and asked how to do it, which part of it was to ask if he should buy it and sell it, which is a bad idea and not required.
                            Kemasa.
                            False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                            Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                            Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                            • #15
                              M1NM
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 7966

                              Originally posted by Canucky
                              Licensed manufacturer? Sorry who takes responsibility. Tagged.
                              This demand evidence reloader is properly licensed or no go. It doesn't matter if you get a waiver from buyer that he knows it's reloaded if something happens you will be named in the suit.

                              Originally posted by Tyke8319
                              Would you mind citing the particular CA code that prohibits the selling of reloaded ammo?
                              Federal law. FFL06 – Manufacturer of Ammunition for Firearms Other Than Ammunition for Destructive Devices or Armor Piercing Ammunition.
                              Last edited by M1NM; 04-02-2020, 12:55 PM.

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