DES shut down?

[kemasa]

I tried no way to contact ca doj. I was hoping to do it without leo intervention.

Pay with a credit card, then dispute the excess with your credit card company with the documentation about the limit. As I understand it, there is a charge for disputed charges, so it will cost them quite a bit of money and if there are enough disputes, then they could lose their credit card processor and/or have to to more.

[OCArmory]

Or just go somewhere else. Seriously why try to actively put someone out of business. No one is forcing you to go there. Also you will loose the dispute because you signed the credit card slip and there is a receipt to back it up.

[DieuSoldat]

Renewed my COE 3/11, got new one in e-mail 3/16. I am in Orange County.

[DieuSoldat]

Also, just got this e-mail from @usdoj.gov this morning:

This is an important message from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Pursuant to California Safety and Health Code Section 120295, all non-essential businesses have been directed to close during the COVID19 pandemic. Licensees can visit their city or county websites in order to determine whether your business is subject to closure. In the event that your city or county has designated FFL businesses as non-essential, and you are suspending operations, please take prudent measures to ensure the safekeeping of firearms, ammunition, and records. As a reminder, report all suspicious persons or activity to your local police department. Additionally, notify A T F at 888-930-9275 if you find any of your firearms lost, missing, or stolen.

So, I went to check CA Exempt Sectors that can stay in operation: https://covid19.ca.gov/img/Essential...ureWorkers.pdf

Sadly, it looks like gun shops aren't exempt, and are likely expected to close. But I'm not a lawyer or politician so who knows...

[edgerly779]

I am not ever going back. They do not exist to me anymore. They did not cheat me out of any money.

[kemasa]

Or just go somewhere else. Seriously why try to actively put someone out of business. No one is forcing you to go there. Also you will loose the dispute because you signed the credit card slip and there is a receipt to back it up.

Because they are illegally ripping people off.

Why are you defending those who violate the law? I don't like the law, but that does not mean that we should not violate it.

It depends on the credit card company since they are illegally charging more than they are allowed to. Just because you signed it and there is a receipt doesn't mean it is a valid charge.

[OCArmory]

Your signature indicates you accepted the charge. The credit card company doesn't care what the law says. I am not defending them. There are plenty of FFLs that break the law and hopefully one day they will go out of business because people stop patronizing them. It pisses me off when employees of those stores come and do PPTS at my shop because I only charge what is allowed. What is the point in turning them in. I literally had a shop down the way selling illegal assault weapons got busted and they are still in business. Anyway back on topic no the DES is not shut down

[CheapBloke]

Traders Loan and Jewelry in Reseda, customer service text.

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[kemasa]

Your signature indicates you accepted the charge. The credit card company doesn't care what the law says. I am not defending them. There are plenty of FFLs that break the law and hopefully one day they will go out of business because people stop patronizing them. It pisses me off when employees of those stores come and do PPTS at my shop because I only charge what is allowed. What is the point in turning them in. I literally had a shop down the way selling illegal assault weapons got busted and they are still in business. Anyway back on topic no the DES is not shut down

Sorry, but I have seen results which indicate otherwise. Some credit card companies will do something, others will not.

You say that hopefully that they will go out of business, but also say why do anything about what they are doing, which doesn't make sense.

[CalifEd]

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs#20G

[CalifEd]

I submitted a new COE request on Saturday 2/29 but it was kicked back because I didn't include my CDL.
I fixed it and resubmitted on Monday 3/2 - status is pending.
So, i'm sitting and pending....

[CalifEd]

It is Approved

Just received notification that my COE was approved.
Still waiting for my FFL03 but not a problem since I still can't get out of the house.