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The CA DOJ has said that storage fees can be charged if it isn't picked up within 10 days. The undetermined could be a gray area since it can't be released and the statement was made with regards to when the firearm could be picked up. The same would apply to any delay. It is hard to get a clear answer, which is also an answered based on the actual law.Kemasa.
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However not every FFL is like you (following laws). Some are hardcore, some are lax. For example on locks, hardcore meaning when you have a lock purchased within 30 days with the receipt but some FFL still won't accept and needs to buy one of their lock. This happened during an PPT last year. FFL's excuse was those locks are for the previous guns can't be reuse again. When they said that I didn't even want to waste my breath as its "their" store. I advise my buyer although closer to his home go to another one further down the street and avoid bs like that.
Another example is PPT a used Glock Gen 3 which has all its originals includes box and lock. Some FFL will NOT accept that lock and make you buy one of their locks.
Lax - Some FFL I know say we are PPTing a older revolver which at the time never came with a lock and buyer brings one of many cable locks from his home (no receipt) and that FFL has no problem accepting it.
So there are hardcore and friendly FFLs out there!!Comment
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Hardcore isn't the correct word as it is not following the laws and instead making things up. Some don't understand the laws, some don't care.Kemasa.
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In some cases the locks are not CA certified locks OR there is no indication that it is a CA certified lock, which makes it unacceptable.
I think that some just haven't looked at all the laws/rules and don't understand what is required. If the firearm comes with a lock that is CA certified, then no additional lock is required. A lock with a receipt is acceptable, even if it is from a private party.
The easy thing is to just require a lock to be purchased so that they know what to do. If they sell a lock, then they have a copy of the invoice, so it is easy. It is harder to know what to do with a lock that is included, but all that is needed is to document it by putting it in the comment field (which is what the CA DOJ wants, but isn't actually required).Kemasa.
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A bit of an issue since they don't split out the items. The background check isn't $60, so they added their fee into it. It also looks like they taxed everything, which isn't right.Kemasa.
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Looks to be:
Background Fee $60
Lock $5.00
Tax $6.50
Total $71.50"Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." - NiebuhrComment
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1. Doesn't even itemize and instead just simple general "background check" and because its grouped like that they can add whatever they like and hide it under "background check".
2. Sales tax is taxed everything!
I haven't been inside the location but if there were a sign stating they charge $12.81 service fee on all PPTs then each is own. I believe I read somewhere long time ago that if an FFL posted or disclosed/signage a service fee, they can do it. But like I've said most only do $37.19 + $10.
As far as the tax, they are not suppose to charge tax on $47.19.Last edited by sfe187; 03-24-2020, 8:25 PM.Comment
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