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  • Th4tNinja
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2016
    • 39

    Proof of Residency Alternatives

    Does anyone know what would work as POR other than DMV registration and lease agreement?

    So would a business license from the city work if the address and name matches my ID?
  • #2
    edgerly779
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 19871

    ^^ NO read the regs on this. Why would your city business license have your home address Go buy a fishing license that puts money in the state coffers where it belongs. Phone bull, voter registration.

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    • #3
      edgerly779
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2009
      • 19871

      Even big 5 accepts fishing license. Where are you located? just write a up a lease then Not rocket science. Do you have a hunting license.? Utility bill. phone bill (not cellular.
      Last edited by edgerly779; 11-17-2018, 6:05 AM.

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      • #4
        OCArmory
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 1321

        Not sure why they would take hunting and fishing licenses this is straight for the dealer section of the doj
        Examples of documents that are NOT acceptable proof of residency:

        Hunting or fishing license (these documents are not issued by the government).
        Cellular phone bill.

        When I asked about it at an audit some years ago I was told it was because they were issued by the retailer not the government

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        • #5
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44649

          Originally posted by OCArmory
          Not sure why they would take hunting and fishing licenses this is straight for the dealer section of the doj
          Examples of documents that are NOT acceptable proof of residency:

          Hunting or fishing license (these documents are not issued by the government).
          Cellular phone bill.

          When I asked about it at an audit some years ago I was told it was because they were issued by the retailer not the government
          That's an interesting argument from them.

          Perhaps it predates the existence of this web page: https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/Licensing/Online-Sales
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          • #6
            kemasa
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jun 2005
            • 10706

            First off which requirement are you asking about, CA or Federal?

            Most of what works for the Feds works for CA except for a CA ID/DL for handgun purchases.

            A government document with dates when it is valid is acceptable. Such things as a Ham radio license, fire permit, vehicle registration all work. The hunting licenses are now issued by the state as I recall, so the CA info is out of date. Government utility bills also work.

            CA also has it in the law that a lease works. In their example they say a notarized lease, but that isn't in the law and isn't normal.

            To your question as to a business license with your name and home address, it should have dates when it is valid, it is also a government document, so it should be fine.

            The problem is many don't think about what the requirements are and so they want only what they are used to.
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            • #7
              kemasa
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2005
              • 10706

              Originally posted by Librarian
              That's an interesting argument from them.

              Perhaps it predates the existence of this web page: https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/Licensing/Online-Sales
              Yep. They saw what was said before and ignore changes.
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              • #8
                acespawnshop
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                CGN Contributor
                • Jun 2012
                • 2852

                Originally posted by edgerly779
                Even big 5 accepts fishing license. Where are you located? just write a up a lease then Not rocket science. Do you have a hunting license.? Utility bill. phone bill (not cellular.
                Big 5 doesn't sell handguns. So I'm curious why the would be getting proof of residency.
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                • #9
                  kemasa
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 10706

                  Originally posted by acespawnshop
                  Big 5 doesn't sell handguns. So I'm curious why the would be getting proof of residency.
                  You mean if the current residence isn't on the CA ID/DL?

                  Then again, it could be their just being stupid and not understanding the law that it is only for handguns that there is a proof of residency requirement which the CA ID/DL isn't acceptable.

                  Something that was told to me which I didn't realize is that CA actually has no proof of residency requirement for long guns. The Feds do though.
                  Kemasa.
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                  • #10
                    taperxz
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 19395

                    Originally posted by kemasa
                    You mean if the current residence isn't on the CA ID/DL?

                    Then again, it could be their just being stupid and not understanding the law that it is only for handguns that there is a proof of residency requirement which the CA ID/DL isn't acceptable.

                    Something that was told to me which I didn't realize is that CA actually has no proof of residency requirement for long guns. The Feds do though.
                    Actually, they kind of do. Since DROS is limited to CA DL/ID or Military orders.

                    In other states, a long gun purchase can occur to people in other states as long as the two states have to same requirements for legal purchase.

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                    • #11
                      kemasa
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 10706

                      Originally posted by taperxz
                      Actually, they kind of do. Since DROS is limited to CA DL/ID or Military orders.

                      In other states, a long gun purchase can occur to people in other states as long as the two states have to same requirements for legal purchase.
                      I think that you are missing the point. There isn't any proof of residency requirements under CA law for long guns. While they need a CA ID/DL or military ID, CA doesn't require that it have their current residence. There are still Federal requirements, but you don't need anything for CA.
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                      • #12
                        ugimports
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 6250

                        Originally posted by Th4tNinja
                        Well I was thinking of a business that operates out of my house (i.e. selling stuff online like ebay or amazon). So the business address would also be my home address. As for the fishing license and voter registration, my lgs wont accept those.
                        In summary - it doesn't matter what anyone in this thread tells you. You need to ask the LGS what they will take. We can all tell you what's legit, but if your LGS doesn't take it they don't take it.
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                        • #13
                          taperxz
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 19395

                          Originally posted by kemasa
                          I think that you are missing the point. There isn't any proof of residency requirements under CA law for long guns. While they need a CA ID/DL or military ID, CA doesn't require that it have their current residence. There are still Federal requirements, but you don't need anything for CA.
                          Not really missing the point and i understood you. I was just pointing out that the CA residency for a long is established (as a CA resident only) via the DL/ID whereas no one from out of state can dros any gun in this state. Technicality

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                          • #14
                            pacrat
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                            • May 2014
                            • 10280

                            Originally Posted by OCArmory View Post
                            Not sure why they would take hunting and fishing licenses this is straight for the dealer section of the doj
                            Examples of documents that are NOT acceptable proof of residency:

                            Hunting or fishing license (these documents are not issued by the government).
                            Cellular phone bill.

                            When I asked about it at an audit some years ago I was told it was because they were issued by the retailer not the government



                            Originally posted by Librarian
                            That's an interesting argument from them.

                            Perhaps it predates the existence of this web page: https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/Licensing/Online-Sales
                            Back in the 1960s and 70s. I went to the DFG Regional headquarters in Long Bch. To get H & F licenses, tags, stamps, etc. In the 1980s, 90s, and up into the new millinea. I went to the new DFW Regional headquarters in Los Alamitos. On Lampson Ave off of Seal Bch Blvd.

                            In 1997 I went to a regional HQ on Silverado Cnyn Rd, in IIRC Sonoma Cnty. License expired and I was working in Benecia.

                            So the "NOT ISSUED BY GOVERNMENT" BS is just that, BS.

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                            • #15
                              acespawnshop
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 2852

                              Is there any aspect of CA firearms laws that are not BS Pac?
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