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  • ugimports
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Jun 2009
    • 6250

    Single Shot Pistol Bulletin

    Just posted a little while ago:
    Purchasers should be aware that aftermarket changes or modifications made to certain single shot pistols (i.e. changing upper receivers, connecting gas tubes) may be considered manufacturing these pistols into assault weapons. See California Penal Code section 30515, subdivision (a)(1), for a list of assault weapon characteristics. The purchaser could be in violation of Penal Code section 30600, prohibiting the manufacture of assault weapons, and Penal Code section 30605(a), prohibiting the possession of unregistered assault weapons.

    In addition to the above considerations, alterations of a single shot pistol (i.e. changing upper receivers, connecting gas tubes) may also be considered manufacturing an unsafe handgun. See California Penal Code sections 31900-31910 for the definition of unsafe handguns and 32000(a) for more information on illegal acts involving unsafe handguns.

    Should you have any questions, please contact the Bureau of Firearms, Customer Support Center at (855) 365-3767 or via e-mail at bofdes@doj.ca.gov.
    Apparently they may be willing to answer questions...more likely not, but maybe...
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    acespawnshop
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jun 2012
    • 2852

    Im pretty sure its what we've been thinking all along and Skyhawk said it before too. You're making an unsafe pistol when they do this so the roster testing would have needed to be done. I told a couple customers this in the past and they looked at me like I was stupid. But we've been sayin this for years. Just that nobody wanted to hear it.
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    • #3
      ugimports
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Jun 2009
      • 6250

      Originally posted by acespawnshop
      Im pretty sure its what we've been thinking all along and Skyhawk said it before too. You're making an unsafe pistol when they do this so the roster testing would have needed to be done. I told a couple customers this in the past and they looked at me like I was stupid. But we've been sayin this for years. Just that nobody wanted to hear it.
      I think that it has more recently changed with some updated PC regarding what constitutes mfg which has changed as well.
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      • #4
        RoundEye
        CGSSA Director
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Mar 2010
        • 3671

        I find it interesting that we get bulletins about **** like this, but they won't do one about FLA CDLs.
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        • #5
          BONECUTTER
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 2263

          This is 100% times with the addition of the Franklin Armory Bolt action AR Pistol being added to the roster today.


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          • #6
            caliguy93
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2016
            • 1512

            Here is something to think about

            A safe handgun manufactured/modified to be single shot is not considered manufacturing an exempt handgun and does not avoid the roster..

            Single shot pistols that are modified to semi auto are considered manufacturing a new unsafe handgun that must be subject to the roster.

            It’s one way or another, either a new handgun is manufactured in both instances, or neither are.

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            • #7
              kemasa
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2005
              • 10706

              There is also the issue of taking a registered single shot handgun out of state and doing the modification there, which means no manufacturing a firearm in CA and it is considered the same firearm in terms of bringing back.
              Kemasa.
              False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

              Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

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              • #8
                ugimports
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Jun 2009
                • 6250

                Oh what a tangled web they weave....

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                • #9
                  Aeneas
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 1127

                  Originally posted by ugimports
                  Oh what a tangled web they weave....

                  Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
                  Exactly this.

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                  • #10
                    mr goodguy
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 747

                    people only wants to hear what they want to hear. One part of single shot do they not understand

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                    • #11
                      franklinarmory
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1892

                      Originally posted by BONECUTTER
                      This is 100% times with the addition of the Franklin Armory Bolt action AR Pistol being added to the roster today.


                      https://www.oag.ca.gov/sites/oag.ca....entlyadded.pdf
                      Yes it is coincidental, but I will note that it does not even apply to our pistol. Ours is not a single shot. It is a repeater!

                      Originally posted by kemasa
                      There is also the issue of taking a registered single shot handgun out of state and doing the modification there, which means no manufacturing a firearm in CA and it is considered the same firearm in terms of bringing back.
                      Wouldn't that be importing a state defined unsafe handgun then?
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                      • #12
                        acespawnshop
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 2852

                        Curious here Franklin, how did you get something added to the roster? Doesn't the microstamping issue come into play? Or was this pistol in the works with the DOJ prior to the microstamping issue taking effect?
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                        • #13
                          RoundEye
                          CGSSA Director
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 3671

                          Originally posted by acespawnshop
                          Curious here Franklin, how did you get something added to the roster? Doesn't the microstamping issue come into play? Or was this pistol in the works with the DOJ prior to the microstamping issue taking effect?
                          I believe that microstamping only applies to SemiAutomatic firearms. They add revolvers to the roster all the time. So the CA7 being bolt action is probably an exemption.
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                          • #14
                            taperxz
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 19395

                            Originally posted by acespawnshop
                            Curious here Franklin, how did you get something added to the roster? Doesn't the microstamping issue come into play? Or was this pistol in the works with the DOJ prior to the microstamping issue taking effect?
                            Its not a semi-automatic pistol.

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                            • #15
                              kemasa
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 10706

                              Originally posted by franklinarmory
                              Wouldn't that be importing a state defined unsafe handgun then?
                              No, it is just returning it. If you have an old handgun and you take it out of state, do you think that it would be illegal to bring it back?
                              Kemasa.
                              False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                              Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

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