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  • condor
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 1102

    Handgun PPT

    How many handguns can one buy in 30days via a PPT??
    WITHOUT THE 2nd THERE WON'T BE A 1st...]
  • #2
    kemasa
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2005
    • 10706

    How much money do you have? There is a time aspect, so it really isn't unlimited, but close.
    Kemasa.
    False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

    Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

    Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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    • #3
      condor
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 1102

      LOL... Didn't think about the time.... :-)
      WITHOUT THE 2nd THERE WON'T BE A 1st...]

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      • #4
        acespawnshop
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jun 2012
        • 2852

        Kemasa how many DROS's do you think you could possibly handle for a customer in a month? 1 Buyer, multiple sellers, no mistakes? A hypothetical if money was no option and a buyer decided he needed as many handguns as he could get. I mean this guy is paying $1000 for a gen3 glock so long as the seller is at your table at a certain time to DROS?

        I'm thinking here.... DES opens at 8am right? I can work for probably 4 hours before I need a 15 minute pee break, then another 4 our so to break for lunch/diner. Give me 30 minutes to eat and then work until 11pm?

        So 8:00-nooon 4 hours
        12:15-4:15- 4 hours
        4:15-8:15- 4 hours
        BREAK,
        8:30-11:00 3.5 hours that's 15.5 hours of DROS time, I bet I can do 1 every 20 minutes so that's 3 an hour or roughly 46 guns per day, or 1380 in a month, allowing for internet lag, DES issues, and other unforeseen problems I think 1200 handguns to a single buyer in a month would be possible. My 20 minutes includes time for DROS entry, A&D Logging, Safety Demo, ETC... He would only need 1 4473 per day, and I can attach multiple sheets for the firearm info using Excel.
        Last edited by acespawnshop; 11-07-2017, 11:20 AM.
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        • #5
          Cokebottle
          Señor Member
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2009
          • 32373

          No limit under state law.
          City of Los Angeles (and perhaps some other cities) impose their own 1-every-30 limit that applies to PPT
          - Rich

          Originally posted by dantodd
          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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          • #6
            Red-Osier
            Doesn't Abide
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2015
            • 12284

            Originally posted by acespawnshop
            Kemasa how many DROS's do you think you could possibly handle for a customer in a month? 1 Buyer, multiple sellers, no mistakes? A hypothetical if money was no option and a buyer decided he needed as many handguns as he could get. I mean this guy is paying $1000 for a gen3 glock so long as the seller is at your table at a certain time to DROS?

            I'm thinking here.... DES opens at 8am right? I can work for probably 4 hours before I need a 15 minute pee break, then another 4 our so to break for lunch/diner. Give me 30 minutes to eat and then work until 11pm?

            So 8:00-nooon 4 hours
            12:15-4:15- 4 hours
            4:15-8:15- 4 hours
            BREAK,
            8:30-11:00 3.5 hours that's 15.5 hours of DROS time, I bet I can do 1 every 20 minutes so that's 3 an hour or roughly 46 guns per day, or 1380 in a month, allowing for internet lag, DES issues, and other unforeseen problems I think 1200 handguns to a single buyer in a month would be possible. My 20 minutes includes time for DROS entry, A&D Logging, Safety Demo, ETC... He would only need 1 4473 per day, and I can attach multiple sheets for the firearm info using Excel.
            Awesome break down
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            • #7
              ASD1
              1/2 BANNED
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Apr 2012
              • 1793

              Originally posted by acespawnshop
              Kemasa how many DROS's do you think you could possibly handle for a customer in a month? 1 Buyer, multiple sellers, no mistakes? A hypothetical if money was no option and a buyer decided he needed as many handguns as he could get. I mean this guy is paying $1000 for a gen3 glock so long as the seller is at your table at a certain time to DROS?

              I'm thinking here.... DES opens at 8am right? I can work for probably 4 hours before I need a 15 minute pee break, then another 4 our so to break for lunch/diner. Give me 30 minutes to eat and then work until 11pm?

              So 8:00-nooon 4 hours
              12:15-4:15- 4 hours
              4:15-8:15- 4 hours
              BREAK,
              8:30-11:00 3.5 hours that's 15.5 hours of DROS time, I bet I can do 1 every 20 minutes so that's 3 an hour or roughly 46 guns per day, or 1380 in a month, allowing for internet lag, DES issues, and other unforeseen problems I think 1200 handguns to a single buyer in a month would be possible. My 20 minutes includes time for DROS entry, A&D Logging, Safety Demo, ETC... He would only need 1 4473 per day, and I can attach multiple sheets for the firearm info using Excel.
              The sad part about this is you are only making about $25.81 per hr before taxes.
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              • #8
                acespawnshop
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Jun 2012
                • 2852

                Originally posted by ASD1
                The sad part about this is you are only making about $25.81 per hr before taxes.
                $25 per hour, time 15.5 hours times 30 days $11,625 for the month! I would do it. $11,625 buys me a very nice vacation after a 30 day DROS binge.
                Last edited by acespawnshop; 11-07-2017, 11:52 AM.
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                • #9
                  Cokebottle
                  Señor Member
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32373

                  Originally posted by acespawnshop
                  My 20 minutes includes time for DROS entry, A&D Logging, Safety Demo, ETC... He would only need 1 4473 per day, and I can attach multiple sheets for the firearm info using Excel.
                  That 20 minutes include when he comes back in 10 days for pickup?

                  So 46 guns per day at $10 per for gross income.
                  Not horrible, but considering the long hours and you have to keep the lights on, I'd not be happy if he wasn't also buying ammo.
                  - Rich

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                  • #10
                    acespawnshop
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 2852

                    Forgot about the ATF multiple sales of handguns form. But that can be done after 11:00. probably would only take 10 minutes or so to do it and I can print multiple copies of my excel sheet for the Multi Sales form too. Easy peasy
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                    • #11
                      acespawnshop
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 2852

                      Originally posted by Cokebottle
                      That 20 minutes include when he comes back in 10 days for pickup?

                      So 46 guns per day at $10 per for gross income.
                      Not horrible, but considering the long hours and you have to keep the lights on, I'd not be happy if he wasn't also buying ammo.
                      Business as usual would still be going on. I would just set up a laptop over in the corner for my VIP customer. The guys would still be doing their daily routine.

                      1 minute per gun time allotted for DROS print out and sign at delivery. Then another 1 minute for serial number verification. 46 pickups per day would probably only take 92 minutes of my time afterwards. Plus dude would still be DROSing on day 11. I would have him wait 1 extra day just to print all the DROS's at the same time and deliver at the same time. So it would cut into your bottom line a little but that's negligible.
                      Interstate Transfers $100 (DROS included with the price)
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                      • #12
                        Cokebottle
                        Señor Member
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 32373

                        Originally posted by acespawnshop
                        Business as usual would still be going on. I would just set up a laptop over in the corner for my VIP customer.
                        VIP's not going to he happy when you take your profits and gas up the boat for a week in Cabo
                        - Rich

                        Originally posted by dantodd
                        A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                        • #13
                          acespawnshop
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 2852

                          Meh, who am I trying to kid here. We all know I don't work 30 days straight.
                          Interstate Transfers $100 (DROS included with the price)
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                          Or call 626-968-5900

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                          • #14
                            acespawnshop
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 2852

                            Originally posted by Cokebottle
                            VIP's not going to he happy when you take your profits and gas up the boat for a week in Cabo
                            Why wouldn't he? He obviously has the funds to purchase 1200 guns a month, money is no issue and so long as he got good service he probably would consider it money well spent. Gas in the boat for sure. I probably would be headed for a binder week in New Orleans too.
                            Interstate Transfers $100 (DROS included with the price)
                            Email acesjewelryandloan@hotmail.com if you need us to do a transfer!
                            Or call 626-968-5900

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                            • #15
                              Tyke8319
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 2105

                              ACE...You got way too much time on your hands. You spent $176.37 figuring all that out..............
                              American soldier by choice. Made in America by the Grace of God.

                              So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
                              Judge Roger T. Benitez
                              LCM's ruled legal 3/29/2019

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