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  • condor
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 1102

    10 day exempt

    On a C&R that needs to be FFL01 DROS'd, or a PPT, I understand that it is exempt from the 10day as long as I have the FFL03/COE. The question is... Does that hold true for a non-C&R as well??? I'm looking at an auction with both C&R's and Non's. If it's only the C&R's it will limit my bidding choices 'cause I ain't gonna drive for 6 hours.... TWICE!!.. :-)
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  • #2
    taperxz
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2010
    • 19395

    Unless you have a CFD you are not 10 day exempt

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    • #3
      condor
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 1102

      Originally posted by taperxz
      Unless you have a CFD you are not 10 day exempt
      What the 'H' is a CFD??
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      • #4
        Librarian
        Admin and Poltergeist
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 44660

        Originally posted by condor
        What the 'H' is a CFD??
        Listing as a California Firearms Dealer with the state - see https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs
        ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

        Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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        • #5
          condor
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 1102

          Originally posted by Librarian
          Listing as a California Firearms Dealer with the state - see https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs
          In the original post I refered to a C&R purchase right off the bat, and when the dealer fills out the long gun online form there is a drop down screen that gives the dealer a choice in the waiting period, and they can select 'Collector' which will give him..or her... a window to input my COE number. When they submit it the screen will show 'pending', but have a delivery option available. Click on delivered, sign the form and give them your thumb print on the DROS and you're good to go. No 10 day. As in my OP I was wondering if anyone knew if it would also apply to Non-C&R long guns...??

          So to teperxt about having a CFD and saying that I needed one... It ain't necessarily so... And to avoid confusion in the future it might be better to use FFL01... MOF I did a google on CFD and it gave a bunch of links pertaining to the stocks, and FFL CFD and it also was no help... NADA...

          The OP was a simple question.. Sorry it was so confusing...
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          • #6
            taperxz
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2010
            • 19395

            Originally posted by condor
            In the original post I refered to a C&R purchase right off the bat, and when the dealer fills out the long gun online form there is a drop down screen that gives the dealer a choice in the waiting period, and they can select 'Collector' which will give him..or her... a window to input my COE number. When they submit it the screen will show 'pending', but have a delivery option available. Click on delivered, sign the form and give them your thumb print on the DROS and you're good to go. No 10 day. As in my OP I was wondering if anyone knew if it would also apply to Non-C&R long guns...??

            So to teperxt about having a CFD and saying that I needed one... It ain't necessarily so... And to avoid confusion in the future it might be better to use FFL01... MOF I did a google on CFD and it gave a bunch of links pertaining to the stocks, and FFL CFD and it also was no help... NADA...

            The OP was a simple question.. Sorry it was so confusing...
            Not sure what you are talking about. I just did the drop down on 10 day exemptions on the DES and it only give me 3 exemptions.

            CFD number
            Peace Officer (letter required)
            Special Weapons Permit.

            If you don't fall into any of these categories, you are not exempt since the state doesn't offer any other options on the DROS drop down.

            Basically you are not exempt from the 10 day wait on dealer sales or transfers.

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            • #7
              scoutpup99
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 744

              For C&R he is exempt from the 10 day as long as he has a COE and a 03 FFL. For non C&R firearms he is not 10 day exempt.

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              • #8
                condor
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 1102

                Originally posted by scoutpup99
                For C&R he is exempt from the 10 day as long as he has a COE and a 03 FFL. For non C&R firearms he is not 10 day exempt.
                Simple answer for a simple question. Thanks scoutpup...
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                • #9
                  taperxz
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 19395

                  Originally posted by condor
                  On a C&R that needs to be FFL01 DROS'd, or a PPT, I understand that it is exempt from the 10day as long as I have the FFL03/COE. The question is... Does that hold true for a non-C&R as well??? I'm looking at an auction with both C&R's and Non's. If it's only the C&R's it will limit my bidding choices 'cause I ain't gonna drive for 6 hours.... TWICE!!.. :-)
                  Originally posted by taperxz
                  Not sure what you are talking about. I just did the drop down on 10 day exemptions on the DES and it only give me 3 exemptions.

                  CFD number
                  Peace Officer (letter required)
                  Special Weapons Permit.

                  If you don't fall into any of these categories, you are not exempt since the state doesn't offer any other options on the DROS drop down.

                  Basically you are not exempt from the 10 day wait on dealer sales or transfers.
                  Originally posted by condor
                  Simple answer for a simple question. Thanks scoutpup...
                  What part couldn't you get? lol

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                  • #10
                    condor
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1102

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                    • #11
                      taperxz
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 19395

                      Originally posted by condor
                      On a C&R that needs to be FFL01 DROS'd, or a PPT, I understand that it is exempt from the 10day as long as I have the FFL03/COE. The question is... Does that hold true for a non-C&R as well??? I'm looking at an auction with both C&R's and Non's. If it's only the C&R's it will limit my bidding choices 'cause I ain't gonna drive for 6 hours.... TWICE!!.. :-)
                      Originally posted by taperxz
                      Unless you have a CFD you are not 10 day exempt
                      Maybe this is a little more simplistic?

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                      • #12
                        Librarian
                        Admin and Poltergeist
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 44660

                        PC actually explains clearly -
                        27670.

                        (a) The waiting period described in Section 27540 does not apply to the sale, delivery, loan, or transfer of a firearm if all of the following conditions are satisfied:

                        (1) The firearm is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, or its successor.

                        (2) The sale, delivery, loan, or transfer is made by a dealer.

                        (3) The sale, delivery, loan, or transfer is made to a person who is licensed as a collector pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.

                        (4) The licensed collector has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 26710.

                        (b) On the date that the sale, delivery, or transfer is made, the dealer delivering the firearm shall transmit to the Department of Justice an electronic or telephonic report of the transaction as is indicated in Section 28160 or 28165.
                        ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                        Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                        • #13
                          condor
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 1102

                          Originally posted by taperxz
                          What part couldn't you get? lol
                          Probably the part where you stated that there isn't a 10 day exemption...
                          Baffle 'm with BS... Right??
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                          • #14
                            taperxz
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 19395

                            Originally posted by condor
                            Probably the part where you stated that there isn't a 10 day exemption...
                            Baffle 'm with BS... Right??
                            Your question was being 10 exempt for NON C&R though. I replied that not if you don't have a CFD.

                            Apology since you don't have acccess to DROS. The transfer of a non C&R is a different application from a C&R on the DES.

                            You posted the question clearly and i answered the question clearly. I also gave you accurate information. Read your own question. Unless you don't understand the context of your own question. sheesh

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                            • #15
                              condor
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 1102

                              Originally posted by taperxz
                              Your question was being 10 exempt for NON C&R though. I replied that not if you don't have a CFD.

                              Apology since you don't have acccess to DROS. The transfer of a non C&R is a different application from a C&R on the DES.

                              You posted the question clearly and i answered the question clearly. I also gave you accurate information. Read your own question. Unless you don't understand the context of your own question. sheesh
                              My apologies.. I guess it would have help if I knew clearly what CFD meant... It wouldn't have been such a BFD....
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