Kicked out after dealer refused to PPT - legality?

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Its a shame that FFL agents have been spooked to the point. They must live in fear of losing thier business over transactions that fall in somewhat grey areas...

[rbetts]

Its a shame that FFL agents have been spooked to the point. They must live in fear of losing their business over transactions that fall in somewhat grey areas...

Sometimes common sense creeps into the equation. Fear??? Not so much. Google "Robert Snelling" for an example of what happens to good dealers as a result of grey areas and the results. . . . .

[flectarn]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the roll mark on the receiver only matters if it is SACF right? Anyone can own any lower, but the configuration is what matters, correct?

I am not familiar with SACF, so I can't comment unfortunately. As far as the lower, you can own a AR lower receiver in any configuration as long as it's not mated with an upper receiver, with a full auto receiver being an exemption.

[flectarn]

Knights SR-30 receivers are good to go, since they are not on the list. The first dealer should have done the transaction and obviously didn't have the Kasler or Roberti Roos Lists in front of him. . . .

Yes definitely.

Also he was concerned specifically about the pistol grip, collapsible stock, and "bullet button" (Which was a standard magazine catch).

Long story short, he didn't really know what he was talking about.


I didn't come here to seek reassurance, however the law interests me and I generally wanted to know the legality of him not honoring a legal transfer.

[mcisniper]

Long story short, I brought an AR complete lower receiver in to an FFL to do a PPT. The FFL fed me a bunch of crap about how he needed an Assault Weapons license to transfer this, its illegal, etc. I disagreed with him and they told me to do the transfer somewhere else.

No big deal, transferred at his competitor's across the freeway. And then bought a gun from them as well


Anyways, I began to question the legality of a dealer not doing the PPT on a completely legal firearm receiver. As far as I know, FFL's in CA are legally obligated to process all rifle PPT.


Thoughts?

It's really up to the dealer. I had the DOJ tell me no BB rifles ("Assault Weapons") in the shop after Jan 1, 2017 if I did not have an AW permit. I can see where a dealer might not want to deal with a complete lower. It really falls on how comfortable he feels in explaining it to the DOJ if he gets a visit. It is a very fine line we are talking about livelihoods. Legality? The DOJ would probably be glad he chose not to conduct the transfer. I would also not want the DOJ sniffing around my personal stuff because I complained about what a dealer didn't do. I would not take it personally.

[rustyx]

I am not familiar with SACF, so I can't comment unfortunately. As far as the lower, you can own a AR lower receiver in any configuration as long as it's not mated with an upper receiver, with a full auto receiver being an exemption.

Semi auto center fire.

[Junkie]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the roll mark on the receiver only matters if it is SACF right? Anyone can own any lower, but the configuration is what matters, correct?

I don't believe CF is a requirement, but I could be wrong.