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Do any of you guys know of a new law that goes into effect in 2017, that eliminates the ability of non LEOs to purchase off roster handguns via ppt? I thought that I heard about something about this a few months ago.
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See post #6Last edited by pluke the 2; 12-02-2016, 10:19 PM. -
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I've have never heard anyone with credibility say that this is a real law and don't believe it is. However it seems to be the latest rumour.
I had someone tell me the other day that handguns will be illegal to purchase in california next year because they are removing them all from the roster creating a default ban. People will repeat whatever they hear.Comment
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To add to the rumor, I recall seeing something about making it illegal for a LEO to PPT a firearm that they purchased using their exemption, but I don't know if it passed or not.Kemasa.
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AB 2165 - http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160AB2165
Creates some new designations of exempt LEO, and the new ones - just those - are forbidden to PPT guns they buy as LE to outside LE.
PC 32000(b)(6)and (c)(1)(6) Subject to the limitations set forth in subdivision (c), the sale or purchase of a handgun, if the handgun is sold to, or purchased by, any of the following entities or sworn members of these entities who have satisfactorily completed the firearms portion of a training course prescribed by the Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training pursuant to Section 832:
[[ list ... ]](c) (1) Notwithstanding Section 26825, a person licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive, shall not process the sale or transfer of an unsafe handgun between a person who has obtained an unsafe handgun pursuant to an exemption specified in paragraph (6) of subdivision (b) and a person who is not exempt from the requirements of this section.ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page
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That's the one I remember seeing: AB2165 / PC32000(c)(1).
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PPT of off roster handguns
I have never heard of that lawComment
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Hmmm, as far as I know, the terms they used are a bit off since normally they don't claim that the firearms are unsafe, which means that these unsafe firearms should not be transferred to LEOs, right? :-)Kemasa.
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I really hate to see that.
How are we suppose to even try to stop these things when people are not aware of them? (Not saying we'll succeed ...
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Passed this term, goes into effect Jan 1, 2017.
Being December, it's about time to open the 2017 Bills In California thread over in CA 2A Politics and Activism. Look for a new sticky, and follow along as the legislative demons shovel more coal onto the flames for gun owners.ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page
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There were (quite) a few new "classes" of LE that were added to the roster-exempt list this year.
ONLY THESE NEWLY EXEMPT CLASSES are prohibited from executing a PPT to a non-exempt person.
How this will be enforced, I have no clue. Last I saw FFLs don't ask the seller if he is exempt and if so what his job title is.Last edited by Cokebottle; 12-02-2016, 8:37 PM.- Rich
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Kemasa.
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Kemasa.
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I think I understand, but I am still confused.
An LEO (peace officer/policeman for an incorporated California city), who has legally been able to purchase non-roster guns and sell them to a non-exempt person via PPT, will STILL BE ABLE TO DO SO after Jan. 1, 2017. Correct?
My friend (and police officer) has some non-roster guns he has decided not to keep. I bought one a couple months ago via PPT at our local FFL, and I want to buy another AFTER Jan. 1, 2017. Can we still legally carry out the PPT with my local FFL? Or is he now unable to sell it to me?
Sorry to seem so daft, but it appears to me since the police officer is not among the newly created classes of exempt persons that he should still be able to sell me an off roster gun via PPT. Did I interpret this correctly?
Thanks for the clarification to my specific example.
I need to know if I should arrange a "lay-away" plan with my friend and do the PPT before 12/31/16!Comment
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