Its not our fault when....

[code_blue]

We get a few customers who ask about the guns, then inform us they cant own one because they're felons. Guns are only a small part of what we do so we get all types of people through here.

I agree. High priority to educate and nurture shooters of all ages and experiences. Good FFLs maybe one of the main contributors to rebuilding this country.

I helped a gal going through a DV situation. Watched her change as she went through the emergency RO, court, etc. . . When she first came in, I helped her find the right pistol for herself, recommended ammo choices, helped her with her shooting technique, etc. . .

Months later, this former passive little mouse developed into a strong, self-confident gal. Every time that she comes in, she acts like a child with a huge grin as she's showing me her target to prove how well she shot that day.

We have a responsibility as instructors and educators because we know that even the most experienced commando shooter, really don't know jack. I always tell the folks that I talk to that they should try and learn something new every time that they come in.

Anyways. . .

It's not our fault that PC 32000 states that you're not exempt from the Roster, Sir/Ma'am.

It's not our fault that Glock doesn't consider you as eligible for the Blue Label program.

[SonofWWIIDI]

If you fail the FSC test because your reading comprehension sucks.

Watched that happen at least twice while shopping/picking up.

I couldn't keep myself from laughing out loud!

[I Swan]

Can't you just use a similar operating handgun if no magazine or ammo available? And you would make someone demo an unfired unturned pristine Python and not juat use a similar gun?

I've seen some FFL's sell guns with no mags. One gave me crap once when doing a PPT because I took all the mags. They were expensive and I did not want they getting played with or misplaced. He insisted I have to leave one by law. I asked then why the previous month they sold me a handgun with no magazine.

I thought that made him look like an azz. "We try to include a mag", was the response. I didn't mention how the gun they sold me also had the wrong caliber marked on it as opposed to what the barrel actually was cbambered in and I could bave been hurt if I didn't realize that later.

[Baboosh]

Just had one and wanted to share:

My ATF buddy here told that there is no reason that she can't accept the transfer.

Newsflash, we deal with a lot more than just Federal regulations. There are way more STATE regulations.

[Dano3467]

Also FFL or employee's of, don't know all the answers, but gives then anyway.

We don't know all the answers, & we give them anyway, LOL

Sorry edit: is our fault LOL again.

[kemasa]

Can't you just use a similar operating handgun if no magazine or ammo available? And you would make someone demo an unfired unturned pristine Python and not juat use a similar gun?

Take a look at the Safe Handling Demonstration Affidavit, it says with the firearm or one of the same make and model. not a similar firearm.

I've seen some FFL's sell guns with no mags. One gave me crap once when doing a PPT because I took all the mags. They were expensive and I did not want they getting played with or misplaced. He insisted I have to leave one by law. I asked then why the previous month they sold me a handgun with no magazine.

At long as a magazine is available for the demo, it is not a problem. It can be done at the start or just before it is delivered.

[kemasa]

I think Kemasa posted a sticky about sales tax. In about 90% of our interstate transfers we have to collect sales tax. There's a few exceptions and the sticky should address that.

Sorry. it was 10% who posted it. Gotta give credit where its due.

The exceptions are for gifts and C&R firearms where the buyer has a C&R FFL. If the seller has a presence in CA, they are responsible for collecting the sales tax, including the sales tax on the transfer fee.

I would be surprised if 10% of your sales are not subject to sales tax unless you do a lot of gift transfers.

[ADDAX2]

HA! love it Thanks for the laughs...

[Ph1ree]

Hahah that's awesome!

[code_blue]

The exceptions are for gifts and C&R firearms where the buyer has a C&R FFL. If the seller has a presence in CA, they are responsible for collecting the sales tax, including the sales tax on the transfer fee.

I would be surprised if 10% of your sales are not subject to sales tax unless you do a lot of gift transfers.

I must've misread, but private person interstate shipments aren't exempt as well? Private person classified or gun auction where the seller was not a retailer/business.

[kemasa]

Intrastate private sales are exempt. Interstate are not due to a change in the view of the CA BOE.

[code_blue]

Copy. I thought I read that right. Sent it up the chain to the bosses. Thanks as always, Kem.

[six seven tango]

Adding to the "it's not our fault" list...

There's no 10 day wait exemption for C&R holders on a C&R PPT.

[six seven tango]

The exceptions are for gifts and C&R firearms where the buyer has a C&R FFL.

Can you post a link, or a section number on the C&R exemption? I've paid sales tax on several dealer transfer C&R handguns and I have an 03/COE.

If the dealer doesn't collect sales tax because of the exemption, is the 03 then required to submit it, since I'm assuming the dealer will have to account for not collecting it.


ETA: NVM...I just saw the sticky where you go on to say the seller is a private party, it's an occasional sale, and not a business.

[kemasa]

Adding to the "it's not our fault" list...

There's no 10 day wait exemption for C&R holders on a C&R PPT.

Yes, there is. The DES system is broken, so you have to call it in. They will mark it as delivered.