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  • Marauder2003
    Waiting for Abs
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Aug 2010
    • 2946

    Strange Bible question

    Is there anything in the Bible that supports/refutes the flat earth theory?
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  • #2
    TrappedinCalifornia
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2018
    • 8995

    Originally posted by Marauder2003
    Is there anything in the Bible that supports/refutes the flat earth theory?
    A piece published in 2021... WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT FLAT EARTH THEORIES...

    ...At the end of this brief review of the main arguments that the Bible supports the flat Earth theory, we can draw a sufficiently clear conclusion: the Bible does not promote a specific cosmological model - the flat or round Earth, geocentrism or heliocentrism - and the conflict on cosmological models between science and religion, although having a rich history, is still an artificial one.
    It's a matter of 'interpretation' based on the usual 'pick, choose, and ignore.' As a result, you aren't going to find anything specific which refutes it and what is strung together to support it is usually easily refuted if you know enough about actual Science and History.

    Bear in mind that the piece was published by a Seventh-Day Adventist outlet. However, since many point to that organization as the originator of 'scientific creationism,' it does make for an interesting read.

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    • #3
      Barang
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2013
      • 12138

      Isaiah 40:22 nkjv
      It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
      And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
      Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
      And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

      Job 26:7 nkjv
      He stretches out the north over empty space;
      He hangs the earth on nothing.

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      • #4
        billvau
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2016
        • 864

        The Hebrew word khûg, used in Isaiah 40:22, probably refers to a sphere rather than a circle.


        When I took Hebrew at Seminary, this is what I understood to represent the earth being a sphere. My Hebrew left me 20 years ago, so all I could remember was that there were verses supporting "sphere"!!!

        Blessings!
        Pastor Bill

        "Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason- I do not accept the authority of popes and councils [i.e. any man]- my conscience is captive to the Word of God." Martin Luther

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        • #5
          Eat Dirt
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2007
          • 9497

          Interesting Thoughts.....

          I remember viewing old maps where the world just ended !!

          To the Ends of the Earth ......
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          • #6
            Marauder2003
            Waiting for Abs
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Aug 2010
            • 2946

            I sent your link to a friend that has decided the earth is flat. Her reply:

            I have faith in and read the King James and the New King James Bible. If I have a question, I cross reference for clarification the original King James Bible.

            It has been stated that the "Church" discounted the flat earth theory 500 years ago. What Church? The "Church" is the body of believers, all believers, not an institution. If they are referring to the Catholic church which was extremely corrupt in the Middle Ages, and still is, I would discount that theory.

            I have found no reference to the earth either being a ball or rotating in the Bible. "Bible scholars" splitting hairs over the translation of a word is common. What they fail to do is reference anything else in the Bible that would discount their interpretation of a "word" and what they are trying to support. This article contains additional information regarding the earth as referenced in the Bible.

            NASA Admits to the Biblical Flat and Non-Rotating Earth - Milton Goh Blog

            I am watching this video now. The Firmament: 100% Proof It?s Real! Declassified CIA Papers - YouTube

            My goal is to know the truth. I am okay with the earth being either round or flat, but I am not okay with being misled. Either way, my questions would still be:

            If the earth is flat, why are we being told it is not?
            If the earth is round, why are we now being led to believe it is flat?


            I am 75. At this point I could care less if we are on a ball or a plate.



            Originally posted by billvau
            https://creation.com/isaiah-40-22-circle-sphere

            When I took Hebrew at Seminary, this is what I understood to represent the earth being a sphere. My Hebrew left me 20 years ago, so all I could remember was that there were verses supporting "sphere"!!!

            Blessings!
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            • #7
              Wordupmybrotha
              From anotha motha
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2013
              • 6965

              Originally posted by Marauder2003

              If the earth is flat, why are we being told it is not?
              Because there are satellite images and videos.


              Originally posted by Marauder2003

              If the earth is round, why are we now being led to believe it is flat?
              Whoever is misleading you is stupid.

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              • #8
                Garand Hunter
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 2771

                Hi Bill, yes we are getting older, finally made 80 july 19th, moving along, yes its Isaiah ch 40 vs 22 speaking of Him who sits above the circle of the EARTH.
                I recommend vs 12 thru 22. Ditto " whoever is misleading you "
                Psalm 1

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                • #9
                  billvau
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 864

                  Originally posted by Marauder2003
                  I sent your link to a friend that has decided the earth is flat. Her reply:

                  I have faith in and read the King James and the New King James Bible. If I have a question, I cross reference for clarification the original King James Bible.

                  It has been stated that the "Church" discounted the flat earth theory 500 years ago. What Church? The "Church" is the body of believers, all believers, not an institution. If they are referring to the Catholic church which was extremely corrupt in the Middle Ages, and still is, I would discount that theory.

                  I have found no reference to the earth either being a ball or rotating in the Bible. "Bible scholars" splitting hairs over the translation of a word is common. What they fail to do is reference anything else in the Bible that would discount their interpretation of a "word" and what they are trying to support. This article contains additional information regarding the earth as referenced in the Bible.

                  NASA Admits to the Biblical Flat and Non-Rotating Earth - Milton Goh Blog

                  I am watching this video now. The Firmament: 100% Proof It?s Real! Declassified CIA Papers - YouTube

                  My goal is to know the truth. I am okay with the earth being either round or flat, but I am not okay with being misled. Either way, my questions would still be:

                  If the earth is flat, why are we being told it is not?
                  If the earth is round, why are we now being led to believe it is flat?


                  I am 75. At this point I could care less if we are on a ball or a plate.
                  As soon as someone say KJV is their only version for "truth," you have a red flag. They are not really after "truth" if they limit themselves to KJV only.

                  To be that attached to ANY science subject is to set your mind on things of the earth (literally here). That's a sinful violation of Colossians 3:1-4.

                  Ask them how often they think about/ discuss Jesus Christ, how He affects their life, and how often they are sharing the gospel AS COMPARED to flat earth? (or any earthbound subject).

                  If we focused as much on Jesus Christ as God the Father would have us do, these topics would have no value to us at all.

                  1 Co1:9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

                  --> "Fellowship" = intimate, personal, close, continuous, communion / fellowship / relationship with our Savior, Jesus Christ.

                  Blessings,
                  Pastor Bill

                  "Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason- I do not accept the authority of popes and councils [i.e. any man]- my conscience is captive to the Word of God." Martin Luther

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                  • #10
                    Marauder2003
                    Waiting for Abs
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2946

                    I don?t plan to go down this rabbit hole with her. Since she retired she has gone off the deep end. She did convince me to not get the vax, though.


                    Originally posted by billvau
                    As soon as someone say KJV is their only version for "truth," you have a red flag. They are not really after "truth" if they limit themselves to KJV only.

                    To be that attached to ANY science subject is to set your mind on things of the earth (literally here). That's a sinful violation of Colossians 3:1-4.

                    Ask them how often they think about/ discuss Jesus Christ, how He affects their life, and how often they are sharing the gospel AS COMPARED to flat earth? (or any earthbound subject).

                    If we focused as much on Jesus Christ as God the Father would have us do, these topics would have no value to us at all.

                    1 Co1:9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

                    --> "Fellowship" = intimate, personal, close, continuous, communion / fellowship / relationship with our Savior, Jesus Christ.

                    Blessings,
                    #NotMyPresident
                    #ArrestFauci
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                    • #11
                      Garand Hunter
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 2771

                      She got that ( vax ) part right.

                      Psalm 1

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                      • #12
                        Wordupmybrotha
                        From anotha motha
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 6965

                        Is there a Bible verse on the validity of the sonic boom?

                        Is there a Bible verse on whether not eating carbs will lead to weight loss?

                        Is there a Bible verse about diet coke having similar affect on the brain as heroine?

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                        • #13
                          Dezrat
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 667

                          Originally posted by Garand Hunter
                          Hi Bill, yes we are getting older, finally made 80 july 19th, moving along, yes its Isaiah ch 40 vs 22 speaking of Him who sits above the circle of the EARTH.
                          I recommend vs 12 thru 22. Ditto " whoever is misleading you "
                          Psalm 1
                          Hebrew word in Isa 40:22 is "khug". Same Hebrew word is found in Job 22:14 but translated as "vault" in many bible versions. Can't imagine a 2 dimension vault or container. Other similar Indo-European variations of the Hebrew word "khug" all speak of a spherical shape. Not definitive, but pretty indicative.
                          Useless in the big picture trivia...

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                          • #14
                            Darto
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 6451

                            The Bible does not say the Earth is flat nor say it is round. The authors of the Bible were not interested in that sort of thing. Nobody back then had a clue about the shape of the Earth.

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                            • #15
                              TrailerparkTrash
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 4249

                              Originally posted by Darto
                              The Bible does not say the Earth is flat nor say it is round. The authors of the Bible were not interested in that sort of thing. Nobody back then had a clue about the shape of the Earth.
                              ^^^Exactly. I’ll add that the bible also was NOT written to reform society. Nor was it written to discuss space aliens, prosperity, good fortune, nor winning of sports games.

                              Rather, is was written to point the way to SALVATION! Period.
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