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[Garand Hunter]

Do " electronic Machines GO TO HELL ? Reference the destiny of the " Beast and False Prophet in the Book of Revelation. Not the last time I read it.

Psalm 1

[wpage]

No the jab is not the marker.

[skilletboy]

AGAIN, you cannot be tricked into taking the mark of the beast. It will be something that connected to a world leader and his global/semi-global desire to rule the world.

It could end up being a chip or mark that put you into that system, but Covid isn't it. There is no "man of peace", the temple has not been rebuilt in Jerusalem, and no one has claimed to be God in that temple.

[green grunt]

the mark of the beast is who you Worship and when.... just my 2 cents

[czakita]

Two common objections I hear from believers claiming this jab is not the MOB are that - it doesn’t line up with scripture verses on the right hand or forehead, and that God will not allow Satan to deceive masses to take the MOB.

Really? Did God allow Satan to trick Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil at the garden of Eden? Did Satan force Eve to eat or tricked/deceived her into eating/rebellion?

Revelation 19:20
“And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.”

Here the Scripture clearly states those who received the mark were deceived.

Be like a Berean. Don’t just listen to the so called messengers of God, but do your own study. We must examine scriptures according to context and meaning, from the original text. Let’s look at Revelation 18:23

“And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries(G5531) were all nations deceived.”

Sorcery = Pharmakeia = G5331
Pharmakeia is where the English word pharmacy comes from, means the use or the administering of drugs. Metaphorically means deception and seductions of idolatry.

This verse is speaking to a time when all the nations of the whole world is deceived by Mystery Babylon’s deceptive drugs. Doesn’t this sound like what we are going through now?

Check out Revelation 13:16.

“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark(G5480) in their right(G1188)hand, or in their foreheads”

Right = DEXIPS = Strong’s G1188
It means right hand or right side

Mark = CHARAGMA = Strong’s G5480
CHARAGMA is the Greek word meaning mark, scratch or stamp, which comes from root word CHARAX(G5482).
CHARAX means to sharpen to a point, a stake, a palisade or rampart. Does �� syringe fit this definition? I think so.

So, syringe on the right side of body could be interpreted for Revelations 13:16.

Do you still think the jab is not the MOB? The political State of Israel has already implemented no buy or sell without proof of jab, and we all know it’s coming to all corners of the Earth.

[Creampuff]

I believe believers are gone during the tribulation. The mark is the beast occurs during the tribulation. OP that means we missed the rapture. So no. I don’t believe this is the mark the beasts. So no need for me to click on your attachments.

[czakita]

Rapture before tribulation is men's doctrine. Matthew 24:29-31 counters their claim.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Verse 31 speaks of the gathering of the elect from four corners of Earth immediately after the tribulation.

[Garand Hunter]

Who are the saints Rev ch 13 vs 10, ? You need help with this Bro ? Come on Bro, many millions will CONTINUE to become believers after the catching away ie Rapture ! Remember reading about those who DO NOT take the bait to worship the AC ? The 144 thou Bro, remember them. Remember the angel flying thru the heavens proclaiming the ongoing gospel.

Psalm 1

Psalm 1

[Garand Hunter]

Who are the saints Rev ch 13 vs 10, ? You need help with this Bro ? Come on Bro, many millions will CONTINUE to become believers after the catching away ie Rapture ! Remember reading about those who DO NOT take the bait to worship the AC ? The 144 thou Bro, remember them. Remember the angel flying thru the heavens proclaiming the ongoing gospel.

Psalm 1

[CVShooter]

Hard to believe this thread has gone on as long as it has. 'Twas a silly question.

[The Gleam]

Throughout the empire, many city-states practiced emperor worship in order to receive the best treatment from Rome. In order to enter the agoura to buy, sell, and trade one had to offer a sacrifice at the altar of Nero. Then the priest would wipe ash from the sacrifice on the hand or forehead of the worshipper. Then they could enter. The Mark of the Beast (Nero) happened a long time ago.

It was this, exactly. More than enough documentation supports this, even the Vatican and thousands of other theologians / historians.

I'm always amazed at the lengths people will go to concoct all sorts of never-ending connotation and connection to modern day people, regimes, politics, corporations, organizations, medicine, science, pop-culture, music, social activities, or technology.

In my more than 50 years on this planet, I can cite about 6 dozen (oh, that's 6 of 6+6 by the way) different times someone ascribed 666 to a person or thing, all nonsense because it fit an idea.

Scripture is much more simple than that, and was a merely the media at the telling of its time - when there was no TV, newspapers, magazines, internet, or smart-phones.

[DB>]

Humankind being what it is, "history" often repeats itself, sometimes in strange ways. We got a candidate for gov (if Gru gets the boot) that's running as "the beast"... weird, huh?

While I don't see the OP's point... pretty sure we're all going to be asked to present "proof of vaccination" per Emperor Gruesome and his ilk in order to "do things".... not too far into the future.

Crazy interpretations of prophetic visions have been stock in trade of many hucksters and "religions", nothing new under the sun.

Little Ceasars (not the pizza) arise throughout the timeline. Only the Alpha and Omega transcends, and allows the faithful to overcome. Be an overcomer. Be faithful. Stand firm in the face of evil.

[skilletboy]

I'm going to try and type this with grace and an honest attempt not to argue and flame... that said I have a lot of issues with your post.

But mainly, do you really think it's in the nature of God to reject his people, covered in the blood of Christ who with full intention and heart, and follow Jesus as their savior and Lord, over getting a vaccine?

The MOTB is not something that will be unknown or random that honest Christians could take mistakenly. It will be connected to the practice and worship of the false Christ.

Your train is somewhat logical that there is a mentality of "cannot buy or sell" being set up with this vaccine, but as I said before I believe that mentality is gearing up the world for the idea that forcing people into taking actions for the "benefit of all mankind" can be acceptable, even if it goes against the ideals of personal liberty.

When the anti-Christ comes on the stage he will be known as the "man of peace" who creates peace in the world. The church will recognize him and reject him. The reaction from the world will be WE are impending the process of peace and all mankind, hence the requiring of the mark to align yourself with that religious anti-Christ movement.

A vaccine doesn't qualify.

[stormvet]

Hard to believe this thread has gone on as long as it has. 'Twas a silly question.

You must have gotten the shot/mark.

[billvau]

No. Why? "Because the Bible tells me so." (sing it, don't just read it...)