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  • gdr_11
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 2535

    Angels

    The other night I was thinking about the many Biblical references to angels and I recalled two experiences that were related to me where people I was close to had an experience that might be described as an angelic encounter.

    The first one involved my grandmother who was a devout Christian and the matriarch of the large family that my father came from. When I was 12 years old, my grandmother became very ill in her mid 80's and my dad was called to Los Angeles because she did not have long to live. It was in late December just a bit before Christmas; I remember because my brothers and I were left at home when my mom and dad went to see her. On the night she died, she was surrounded by several of her sons and my mother when she suddenly became very lucid and began talking to her family...calling them all by name and assuring them that everything would be fine and that she was ready to go home. My mother said that suddenly my grandmother pointed to the window and said "Isn't it wonderful how they have decorated the hospital for Christmas? Just look at that beautiful angel in the window"? Everyone turned to look at the window and saw nothing because they were on the 7th floor of the hospital. When they turned back my grandmother had passed on. Hallucination? Not likely since she had just been having lucid conversations with everyone.

    A couple of years ago a very close friend who works at a local college told me of an experience he had one Friday afternoon. There are very few classes on Fridays so the campus was lightly populated and he was hurrying from his office to an administrative meeting when he was approached by a young man who caught his attention. The young man was nice looking and appeared to be middle eastern; he asked for directions to a certain building and my friend told him where to find it. The man then looked directly at my friend and said "Can you tell me what is the most important thing you will do today"? My friend said he thought a moment and then said " I am a believer in Jesus Christ, so the most important think I will do is to love the Lord with all my heart, all my soul and all my might". The young man smiled at him and said "You have spoken very wisely" and then turned to walk away. A few steps later, my friend turned to say something to the young man and he had disappeared there in the middle of the empty quad.

    Both incidents can bring forth many explanations, but they have stuck with me for many years (the one with my grandmother for some 55 years). I thought I would share and see if anyone had any similar stories.
    In an emergency, always dial 1911.
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    PoorRichRichard
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 3201

    First story gave me the chills. Gonna go read the second one now.

    Edit (added content):

    When I was a baby and my mom was pregnant with my little brother, her and my dad's relationship was crumbling (which lead to divorce a few months later), they were broke, and Mom was having some major depression issues. She was looking out the window of her apartment, and saw a row of about 10 very athletic looking men dressed in off-white style togas (think of the common image of roman citizen 2000 years ago). They were all standing in a line, stone-still facing due east as if to protect her from an oncoming attack. And the really odd part that she told me at the end of this story, was that all of these men were at least 9 feet tall. She told me that the sight of the men did scare her, but that it also gave her a sense of peace and calmness,because she knew exactly who, and why they were there.
    Last edited by PoorRichRichard; 05-26-2017, 12:42 PM.
    1A - 2A = -1A
    Originally posted by Wherryj
    If I had a nickel for every gender that exists...
    ...I'd have $0.10.
    Conservatives think liberals are people with bad ideas. Liberals think conservatives are bad people.
    --- Dan Bongino
    Originally posted by EM2
    Some liberals are evil people out to control others. (Hillary, Pelosi, et.al.)
    Many liberals are lemmings and will follow whomever espouses what they 'feel'.

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    • #3
      PoorRichRichard
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 3201

      I got on more from mom, but not enough time to type it now. Will come back and add it later.
      1A - 2A = -1A
      Originally posted by Wherryj
      If I had a nickel for every gender that exists...
      ...I'd have $0.10.
      Conservatives think liberals are people with bad ideas. Liberals think conservatives are bad people.
      --- Dan Bongino
      Originally posted by EM2
      Some liberals are evil people out to control others. (Hillary, Pelosi, et.al.)
      Many liberals are lemmings and will follow whomever espouses what they 'feel'.

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      • #4
        Wordupmybrotha
        From anotha motha
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2013
        • 6965

        Originally posted by gdr_11
        My mother said that suddenly my grandmother pointed to the window and said "Isn't it wonderful how they have decorated the hospital for Christmas? Just look at that beautiful angel in the window"? Everyone turned to look at the window and saw nothing because they were on the 7th floor of the hospital. When they turned back my grandmother had passed on.
        Your grandma pulled off a "psyche".
        Hey, look over there.
        (Turns head)
        See ya!

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        • #5
          PoorRichRichard
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 3201

          I'm bumping this.
          1A - 2A = -1A
          Originally posted by Wherryj
          If I had a nickel for every gender that exists...
          ...I'd have $0.10.
          Conservatives think liberals are people with bad ideas. Liberals think conservatives are bad people.
          --- Dan Bongino
          Originally posted by EM2
          Some liberals are evil people out to control others. (Hillary, Pelosi, et.al.)
          Many liberals are lemmings and will follow whomever espouses what they 'feel'.

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          • #6
            CoopsDad
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 1710

            When my son was about 18 months old, I was going through a huge emotional, spiritual and financial battle that would have lasting repercussions for my whole family. I had Coop up on the changing table and, while dressing him, I was praying in my heart and asking the Lord to show me that I wasn't alone in the fight. My son started waving his hands around and gazing about said "Dad, angels! Angels all around!" and not in a little boy baby talk. Perfect enunciation but in his tiny little boy voice. Then he smiled at me and I knew everything was going to be fine.

            That night I dreamt that there were angels like battle-ready soldiers sitting shoulder to shoulder around the perimeter of my roof. I had the most peaceful sleep that night; better than I'd had in months.

            The issue we were confronting vanished like mist a few days later.

            Coincidentally, Coop never did the baby talk thing- he always spoke like a small person.

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            • #7
              Subotai
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2010
              • 11289

              When I was 36 and my first son was just born, I was having upper-right quadrant pain. I went to the doc and had a sonogram. He calls me at work and tells me some "things" are in my liver and wants a cat scan. If you have liver cancer in this country, you're done for usually. Stress city. It was all I could do not to cry looking at my new son. He'd never know me.

              I went for the cat scan. Didn't hear anything for two weeks. Two weeks! Tell me something, geez!

              While sitting in my chair, feeling pretty bad, I felt a presence just above me on the ceiling. I couldn't see it, but it felt like a circular area there. I felt a peace I've never felt before, but it seemed to be emanating from that area. I felt a voice tell me in my mind, I would be okay. It wasn't audible, it was felt. And then the area slowly dissipated. About an hour or so for the circle to go away.

              My mom knew my issue, so I called her. I told her what happened. She was quiet and asked me how long ago it was. I told her about 20 minutes. She told me the same thing just happened to her, about 20 minutes ago. We compared notes and our experiences were exactly the same.

              And it ended up being hemangiomas and gastritis.
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              • #8
                S&S tac block1
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2017
                • 79

                A while ago I was visiting a local hospital and I noticed an elderly man and
                Woman sittting on a bench
                I felt it necessary to say "good morning " to them , I did and Carried on
                When I was leaving I noticed them both and they walked toward me.
                He approached me ,he was frail but when we shook hands he said without any words "it's gonna be ok" and I got emotional and cried.
                Then he asked me ,while feeling my shirt "what kind of material is that"
                I'll never forget that moment.
                We should be ever mindful for we know not when we are in the presence of angels.

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                • #9
                  Red-Osier
                  Doesn't Abide
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 12284

                  Originally posted by S&S tac block1
                  A while ago I was visiting a local hospital and I noticed an elderly man and
                  Woman sittting on a bench
                  I felt it necessary to say "good morning " to them , I did and Carried on
                  When I was leaving I noticed them both and they walked toward me.
                  He approached me ,he was frail but when we shook hands he said without any words "it's gonna be ok" and I got emotional and cried.
                  Then he asked me ,while feeling my shirt "what kind of material is that"
                  I'll never forget that moment.
                  We should be ever mindful for we know not when we are in the presence of angels.
                  Hebrews 13:2
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                  • #10
                    S&S tac block1
                    Junior Member
                    • Jul 2017
                    • 79

                    That's the verse!
                    Thanks.

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                    • #11
                      Red-Osier
                      Doesn't Abide
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 12284

                      Originally posted by S&S tac block1
                      That's the verse!
                      Thanks.
                      .... We entertain them unaware
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                      • #12
                        APeter001
                        Member
                        • May 2014
                        • 305

                        That's the message my wife always gets to tell people. She's very attuned to the Holy Spirit. "Everything's going to be OK"
                        She 'reads' other people and knows that everything is NOT going to be OK with them. It's weird. I don't notice anything.

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                        • #13
                          RozaShanina
                          Formerly carlosdanger
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 296

                          The dividing line between heaven and earth is much thinner than most people believe.

                          I was working in a VA hospital and one of the patients told me about a life after death experience he had. They were performing open heart surgery on him and suddenly he felt himself leaving his body. He started to float upwards. He said he could see his body lying on the operating table and all the doctors and nurses clustered around. He floated upwards into the sky. As he was floating upwards he saw Jesus floating there too. Jesus didn't say anything but just pointed back downwards towards his body. He said "When Jesus tells you to do things, you just do them!" He went back into his body and when he came too they told him he was clinically dead on the table for a brief period of time.

                          Lots of stories like that.

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                          • #14
                            Volksgrenadier
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 597

                            Angels

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                            Hunter S. Thompson
                            The Great Shark Hunt: Strange Tales From a Strange Time

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                            • #15
                              billvau
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 864

                              Hebrews 13:2 (Heb13:2 "Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by this some have entertained angels without knowing it.") is one of the most mis-used verses in the Bible.

                              How do people use it? They use it be their Biblical proof that they have seen angels (as people or visions) do things - miracles, acts of kindness, comfort.

                              But, what does the verse say? It says that you "entertain" (i.e. receive as a guest) an angel WITHOUT KNOWING IT! The word means to "escape notice."

                              If you don't notice, don't know, then you don't even sense that they are angels, let alone be able to say that you've seen one! And, you receive them as a guest - not watch them do miracles, etc.

                              So, when people in hospitals, on their deathbeds, during operations, etc. or in situations like accidents, wars, etc. say that they've seen angels or Jesus or heaven or something similar - what's happening? Dreams, hallucinations, etc. Those situations often have large amounts of drugs involved, large amounts of pain and adrenalin, etc. Why do their dreams and hallucinations seem so similar to other's dreams and hallucinations? Movies, books, etc. Just the mind replaying from something it associates to.

                              If you want to come to know Christ and experience His presence personally, you have to obey Him and have a life that He is at home in, enjoys dwelling in (Eph. 3:16-17). And, to have that you have to be saved - grace alone, faith alone, in Christ alone. Angels are His ministering spirits, a shadow of what having Him is like.

                              Paul directly covered all of this un-Christlike worship:

                              Col2:18 Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by delighting in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind, 19 and not holding fast to the head, from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God.

                              Jesus Christ is the head - the head of the body of Christ - hold fast to Him (alone!)!

                              Bill
                              Pastor Bill

                              "Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason- I do not accept the authority of popes and councils [i.e. any man]- my conscience is captive to the Word of God." Martin Luther

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