Does God exist ? some scientists think so.

[billvau]

I don't think most people read it that way. Romans was written *to* the Roman Church, but this passage was about everyone/everything created, and how everyone knows instinctively that God has created everything, although this 'general revelation' does not give the Gospel message, as the Gospel message is not for every creature created, but for the Elect.

You say "I don't think most people read it that way." Maybe I need help in what you meant. Only a Christian can respond to creation as being created by God. Who else would you think could see creation being created by God, since they don't know the God of the Bible who created all things (Col. 1:16-17)?

Of course, we're not concerned with about how most people read it, but rather the meaning the Holy Spirit intended. Even though written to the Roman Church, the book is applicable to all mankind. That doesn't mean all mankind will agree that it's the truth of God, but many have been saved by passages from this wonderful book.

Yes, this passage is about everyone/everything created, and, yes, everyone knows God has created everything - because He makes it known to them (v.19). So, they are without excuse at the day of judgment (v.20). Again, yes, this is general revelation and not the Gospel message of special revelation (i.e. the Bible).

The gospel is certainly not for every "creature created" but is for all mankind. Not all will hear the gospel, but there is a greater culpability for those who have heard and have turned away (e.g. Heb. 6:4-6). Yes, only the elect will respond to the Gospel, but that doesn't mean it is only for them per my previous sentence. And, of course, since we don't know who the elect are, we present the gospel to all men and women. God wants all to hear the good news, but not all respond unto salvation.

Ro1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

Bill

[Garand Hunter]

Jewish Faith flat out believes that God created what we called creation. Gen
ch 1 vs 1 was written by Moses, Loooonnnng before Christians wrote and read
Romans. St Paul was very much Jewish and absolutely Christian.

Psalm 1

[RAMCLAP]

Exactly so!. But people use science to revise and correct those flaws and mistakes. It's a never ending cycle. The Bible has not been revised in 1700 years.

The Bible has never been revised. The canon has been revised. That which is in the canon has never been revised by orthodox Christianity.

[jinjyr]

Well sure....who in their right mind could think John Mosses Browning was an accident of the universe?

[illuminate10]

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110714103828.htm

Humans 'predisposed' to believe in gods and the afterlife

The researchers point out that the project was not setting out to prove the existence of god or otherwise, but sought to find out whether concepts such as gods and an afterlife appear to be entirely taught or basic expressions of human nature.

Studies by Emily Reed Burdett and Justin Barrett, from the University of Oxford, suggest that children below the age of five find it easier to believe in some superhuman properties than to understand similar human limitations. Children were asked whether their mother would know the contents of a box in which she could not see. Children aged three believed that their mother and God would always know the contents, but by the age of four, children start to understand that their mothers are not all-seeing and all knowing. However, children may continue to believe in all-seeing, all-knowing supernatural agents, such as a god or gods.

the natural instinct God has instilled in mankind. There is no altering God's creation. This is the true religion, but most people do not know.


Our faith is built into us according to science and "religion".