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  • boopiejones
    Senior Member
    • May 2014
    • 2044

    if someone has faith that there is a god, a creator, or whatever they want to call it, then that's fine. everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.

    personally i believe that as we advance scientifically, it will be proven that our current universe was created/evolved from some other form of universe vs. being created by an eternal, all powerful being.

    truth be told, in our lifetimes we will never know exactly how the universe came to be. even if we figure out how our current universe was formed, that will result in more questions like how the thing that formed the universe was formed. one could always say that an "eternal being" did it, but "science" would be just as fair, and more probable, of an answer
    my Benitez goes to 11

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    • BillyGoatCrawler
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 2583

      Originally posted by Just Dave
      Something exist
      Nothing cannot produce something
      Therefore something must have always existed.
      The universe did not always exist.
      Therefore the universe had to come from something that always existed...
      You're saying these things factually. Stop it.. How do you know the universe didn't always exist? It's the Big Bang THEORY. We don't know the history of the universe factually. How do you know that the big bang didn't actually happen, but before that it was all the matter in the universe compressed into a small space? How do you know it's not cyclical?

      You're fully of logical fallacies and everyone is calling you on it, but you keep on trying to round robin this gig.

      Doheny has it right. Faith can justify the belief in god. But at this point, science does not even come close to justifying proof of god.
      Kunar Prov, A'stan '08-'09, 1-26 INF

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      • Just Dave
        Banned
        • Jul 2011
        • 7259

        My op has more details.

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        • Just Dave
          Banned
          • Jul 2011
          • 7259

          Originally posted by Standish
          You're saying these things factually. Stop it.. How do you know the universe didn't always exist? It's the Big Bang THEORY. We don't know the history of the universe factually. How do you know that the big bang didn't actually happen, but before that it was all the matter in the universe compressed into a small space? How do you know it's not cyclical?

          You're fully of logical fallacies and everyone is calling you on it, but you keep on trying to round robin this gig.

          Doheny has it right. Faith can justify the belief in god. But at this point, science does not even come close to justifying proof of god.
          Astrophysics, reread the thread and click on some of the links I've provided.

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          • BillyGoatCrawler
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 2583

            Originally posted by Just Dave
            Astrophysics, reread the thread and click on some of the links I've provided.
            You're misunderstanding the sources. Post 104 for example. Those quotes do nothing to prove all the matter in the universe was instantly created. And those are also THEORIES. Hence their use of "theorized" and "suggested that".

            The discussion in post 108 is based off what we currently know and can therefore attempt to extrapolate the conclusion that it had a beginning. But, to assume that what we know at this point is the end all be all is a pretty bold and arrogant move.

            But, keep talking. It's entertaining to watch your logic. allaboutgod.com as one of your sources. Nice.
            Kunar Prov, A'stan '08-'09, 1-26 INF

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            • LeadFarmer74
              Veteran Member
              • May 2015
              • 3105

              NRA Lifer
              Originally posted by Click Boom
              I know your ban hammer is cold hammer forged and chrome lined, im not messin with it!

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              • e90bmw
                Senior Member
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2013
                • 1268

                I see proof that there is a God every time I open my eyes, take a breath or hear anything. I am here because God exists.

                I don't need anymore proof.

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