Parking ticket question

[P5Ret]

22652 CVC authorizes LE to remove a vehicle from a disabled stall, public or private property. For mall security or a contracted tow company to tow off of private property, the section is listed on the signage posted at entry ways. I can't recall it off the top of my head at the moment.

[ziconceo]

Interesting, but since you can never tow a car that's not there....

[SonofWWIIDI]

Mall security can not cite the car, there is a couple of big battles going on now about that in Emeryville and I think the other is SF, where private security is citing vehicles with no authority to do so. Emeryville has gone to court last I heard and had a cease and desist order issued on it.
Only PD employee's or volunteers can cite vehicle code violations. So to answer your question he's good. Although I'm curious how someone could accidentally park in a disabled spot, they do mark them pretty well.

It can happen. I almost did it last week.

It was dark, and raining. I was in a store parking lot, saw a car backing out of a spot that appeared to be next to a bunch of handicapped spots. They all had signs in front on the spots indicating they were handicapped. This one didn't. So I pulled in and parked. Again, no sign in front of the space, but signs in front of the others. Just to be safe, I walked around the back of the truck to look for a ground marker. Sure enough there it was. I couldn't see it because of the puddle that was over it, and there wasn't a sign. So I backed out and found another spot.

I was very close to parking in it by accident.

[Bert Gamble]

It can happen. I almost did it last week.

It was dark, and raining. I was in a store parking lot, saw a car backing out of a spot that appeared to be next to a bunch of handicapped spots. They all had signs in front on the spots indicating they were handicapped. This one didn't. So I pulled in and parked. Again, no sign in front of the space, but signs in front of the others. Just to be safe, I walked around the back of the truck to look for a ground marker. Sure enough there it was. I couldn't see it because of the puddle that was over it, and there wasn't a sign. So I backed out and found another spot.

I was very close to parking in it by accident.

The same has happened to me. I check all around if I am parking near a handicapped spot just to be safe.

[Just-in]

22652 CVC authorizes LE to remove a vehicle from a disabled stall, public or private property. For mall security or a contracted tow company to tow off of private property, the section is listed on the signage posted at entry ways. I can't recall it off the top of my head at the moment.

22658(a) is for private property towing, I read all of 22658 and can't find anything specific to handicapped stalls . Anytime back in my days of driving a wrecker and I towed from a handicapped stall it was under the basis that though they did not have a handicapped placard or license plate, they also were not a resident of the complex per the management and did not have a parking permit.

[P5Ret]

22658(a) is for private property towing, I read all of 22658 and can't find anything specific to handicapped stalls . Anytime back in my days of driving a wrecker and I towed from a handicapped stall it was under the basis that though they did not have a handicapped placard or license plate, they also were not a resident of the complex per the management and did not have a parking permit.

Sorry my bad 22652 CVC. That sort of thing happens when you get older.

[retired]

Thanks for the answer, I just asked him myself and he said he saw white lines so he assumed he was good. Maybe it was fading? He certainly isn't the kind of guy to do that on purpose

Since disabled parking has blue lines and I don't believe blue fades to white, I'm having a difficult time following that one.

Also, SonofWWIIDI, unless things have changed since I left patrol, the sign is also required in addition to the proper markings on the parking space itself. So technically, I believe a ticket would have been invalid, but you did the right thing by parking elsewhere, so kudos.

Disabled parking was my pet peeve and I always cited for it, even when working a criminal car. Frequently, while recovering from one of my many work related surgeries, I would not be able to park in a disabled spot because someone without the proper signage or plate would be in it. They were too lazy to park in a non disabled spot.

The real question OP is; how did your friend hear the mall chatter. Does he take a radio with him when he parks in the disabled spots so he can hear if they are coming for his car.

[ziconceo]

Since disabled parking has blue lines and I don't believe blue fades to white, I'm having a difficult time following that one.

Also, SonofWWIIDI, unless things have changed since I left patrol, the sign is also required in addition to the proper markings on the parking space itself. So technically, I believe a ticket would have been invalid, but you did the right thing by parking elsewhere, so kudos.

Disabled parking was my pet peeve and I always cited for it, even when working a criminal car. Frequently, while recovering from one of my many work related surgeries, I would not be able to park in a disabled spot because someone without the proper signage or plate would be in it. They were too lazy to park in a non disabled spot.

The real question OP is; how did your friend hear the mall chatter. Does he take a radio with him when he parks in the disabled spots so he can hear if they are coming for his car.

I'm assuming that it was once a white parking spot that later got changed to a hand I capped one. I've personally news it multiple times. Also, no he doesn't haha he just overheard it from someone else's radio. They are pretty loud.