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  • #31
    tyrist
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 4564

    How you treat us will determine how you are treated and that goes for everyone.

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    • #32
      11bravo1p
      Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 294

      Thanks guys for the great replies. I thought about a career in law enforcement when I ETS'd, and decided to take a different path but I still wonder what it is like to be a cop and to have to put up with all of the different personalities you encounter in the line of duty. You see allot of yahoos (the offenders not the LEOs) on shows like cops and was just wondering if vets and active duty were viewed any differently but it sounds like it is what I thought. That respecting the law and those who enforce it should be SOP. I know that when I was on active duty I always did my best to toe the line. It's just the right thing to do and there was always the double whammy if somebody did something illegal off post they would not only have to deal with civil authorities but you would also face the UCMJ. Not something that I would like to experience and luckily never had to.
      Last edited by 11bravo1p; 02-02-2014, 6:13 PM.

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      • #33
        semperfi24
        Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 129

        If you do the crime you do the time is my motto! I have a few LEO friends and they tell about other LEO's can pretty much get away with murder which is not fair they should follow they same laws, they need set the example instead they think that they are exempt.

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        • #34
          Falconis
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 1688

          My experience:

          Had 1 guy here (on the boards) all pissy he didn't catch a break for traffic.

          Had 1 guy I pulled over that didn't seem right. Example is, reading what you guys write, it's pretty evident you guys are or were in the service. This guy seemed like he was trying to BS his way through everything.

          Everyone else I have ever dealt with were pretty run of the mill in the good way.

          Every service member I have ever worked shoulder to shoulder with were just awesome to work with. One of my best friends and former partners is still active reserves.

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          • #35
            yzErnie
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Mar 2007
            • 6309

            Originally posted by semperfi24
            I have a few LEO friends and they tell about other LEO's can pretty much get away with murder which is not fair they should follow they same laws, they need set the example instead they think that they are exempt.
            Your friends are idiots and/or not telling you the truth. The Code of Silence is non existent with these youngsters these days.
            The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

            Originally posted by RazoE
            I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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            • #36
              kermit315
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2007
              • 5928

              I am with the others in this thread. I interact with Sailors and Marines on a pretty consistent basis, both on calls and not, since my agency covers two naval installations. If they are decent and it is some minor bs, they might get a warning vice a ticket. If they are asshat airmen or PFC's that think that swearing their oath meant they had an automatic 'get out of jail free' card, press hard. That always irks me.

              Now, the flipside is that if Joe Blow does the same thing and acts the same way, barring any priors, warnings, or warrants, they are probably going to get the same treatment. I pull over lots of cars, but I do not write lots of tickets. You do that math.

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              • #37
                WyattandDoc
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 767

                I will thump on anybody who tries to thump on me. Vet, Serviceman, Cop, Lawyer, Janitor etc etc. Why would a profession dictate different treatment? It's what wrong with our society that you would even ask this question.

                I've given drunk civilians rides home. I've given drunk servicemen and cops rides home. Attitude is everything and sometimes circumstances dictate giving a break to a persone regardless of profession.
                Last edited by WyattandDoc; 02-03-2014, 5:48 AM.
                Knives don't stab people, cars don't drive drunk, eating utensils don't make you fat and pencils don't mis-spell words.

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                • #38
                  trob
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1881

                  the same as anyone else.

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                  • #39
                    1CavScout
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 3234

                    ^^^ Same here. I never worked traffic, and hated writing tickets. Attitude in most cases dictated how the contact was going to end. If I could cut someone a break, I usually did.

                    I did give more than a few homeless vets a ride to the VA though to try and get them some treatment for various issues.
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                    • #40
                      shakes88
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1128

                      I've never expected any specialized treatment from LEO's. Outside the gate, I'm a citizen just like everybody else. Still held to the laws every other car on the road is.

                      I was in the car with my buddy who tried flashing his CAC. As the CHP officer handed him his citation he said "I really hate giving military tickets, but..." I had to do my best not to laugh out loud, so I didn't catch the rest...
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                      • #41
                        Bobby Ricigliano
                        Mit Gott und Mauser
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 17439

                        I served in the Army prior to and during my LE career. I am more than happy to extend the spirit of the law for our nation's finest. That does NOT give carte blanche' for said service member to be an Adam Henry, so every situation is different.

                        I realize that most people can get a ticket and pay the fine or fight it in court with their employer none the wiser. Military folks answer to their CoC on and off duty, much as we LE do. I certainly do not want to ruin someone's military career, but i do expect the person to reciprocate the respect and courtesy I give to them, otherwise all bets are off.

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                        • #42
                          retired
                          Administrator
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 9409

                          Originally posted by semperfi24
                          If you do the crime you do the time is my motto! I have a few LEO friends and they tell about other LEO's can pretty much get away with murder which is not fair they should follow they same laws, they need set the example instead they think that they are exempt.
                          Please do not come in to the leo forum and post this type of comment or you won't be posting in this forum. The leos here, both active and retired don't want to see it and it is in violation of the rules for this speciality forum. Thank you.

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                          • #43
                            11bravo1p
                            Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 294

                            So if someone has skillsets that would help law enforcement, is it possible to become a reserve officer? My job requires me to be available most of the time but I would like to support my local community. How does someone go about that? Would you need a sponsor officer? Would prior service count towards training requirements or would an individual need to start from scratch?

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                            • #44
                              kermit315
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 5928

                              I put myself through the academy and applied. I had already been volunteering with my agency. I got sworn in and have all the same police powers as any other LEO, just with no pay.

                              ETA: Prior service will not mean much unless you have MP background, and even that is going to depend on the state. Not sure how CA deals with it, though I would bet it would be similar.
                              Last edited by kermit315; 02-04-2014, 12:54 AM.

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                              • #45
                                11bravo1p
                                Member
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 294

                                No MP experience here. Just small arms profeciency. And everything associated with it.

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